what other boats compete with the <= 220 sundeck

Aarrhh & Aarrhh said:
still around in this segment?
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Is there something wrong with the segment?? Not challenging you, just asking your opinion.

I have read elsewhere that the 220 Sundeck was once SR's top seller. I also have asked myself, if it was a top seller, why slow down or stop making it?

Maybe the 240 gives a lot more room or something. But for me the 220 is a budget and trailer-ability and wife drive-ability issue. Seems like I wouldn't be alone.
 
LakeMartinVoice said:
Is there something wrong with the segment?? Not challenging you, just asking your opinion.
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You forgot the "builders" part in my statement. What I was referring to was all the recent chapter 11 filings and closures of other manufacturers. How do you get parts or warranty work when your original manufacturer is no more? The 220 is the best boat in this segment, and I can say that from my experience with that model. I was just trying to make the point of whatever boat you do end up getting make sure you take that into account and don’t leave yourself open to problems down the road. Boating should be enjoyable long term and you need a manufacturer that sticks behind their product, like Sea Ray, to make it as enjoyable as possible.
 
@RR - OK, I see what you mean. Seems like I read on the Crowneline or Chapparal forum that one of those companies was doing the chapter 11 boogie and therefore some people had concerns about warranties. That is good advice.

Thanks!
 
As for the original question, at least one other is Crownline. I own a 2005 240 EX with the 5.0 MPI, Bravo III and custom prestige trailer. I recently bought a 290 Sea Ray Sundeck w/496 Mag, BIII. Lots of pros/cons for all types of boats. I have nothing bad to say about the Crownline (it's for sale if you are interestred). It has been a flawless boat with no problems. Crownline wdidn't make a deck boat as big as the 290 when I was looking so I changed brands to Sea Ray. i am looking forward to the new boat but I don't really get into the "Ford/Chevy" debate. For me, its about a good dealer with a good product that meets my changing preferences, wants and needs when I decide to buy something. Shoot me an email with any questions if you want.
 
difficulty in finding out how many passengers

@westy- thanks, that is good info. I will take a look at the Crownlines, too.

My main problem now is figuring out official seating capacities for these older ( 1998 - 2001) boats. I have scoured the web, the CSR, and SR's official site. I can find the places to download the owner's manual - but they are little more than 2 page brochures. They give good info on engines etc but I can't find a spot that will succinctly tell me, e.g., the seating capacity of a 1999 210 bowrider versus a 1999 210 sundeck.

Does anyone know of a link to passenger or rider seating capacities?

Thanks,
 
Re: difficulty in finding out how many passengers

LakeMartinVoice said:
@westy- thanks, that is good info. I will take a look at the Crownlines, too.

My main problem now is figuring out official seating capacities for these older ( 1998 - 2001) boats. I have scoured the web, the CSR, and SR's official site. I can find the places to download the owner's manual - but they are little more than 2 page brochures. They give good info on engines etc but I can't find a spot that will succinctly tell me, e.g., the seating capacity of a 1999 210 bowrider versus a 1999 210 sundeck.

Does anyone know of a link to passenger or rider seating capacities?

Thanks,
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How man passenger do you plan to take out with you?
 
We love our 220 sundeck. I would try to get one with a 350 MAG if it were me. I feel that to be 'just enough' motor for watersports. In fact, I am looking into supercharging my 350 MAG this summer. We looked at the 200 SD and felt that it was a bit cramped for what we were looking to do. We also looked at the 240 SD and found it to be a bit bigger, but lacked the integrated swim platform and had a shallower bow seating area. Besides that, the weight of the 240 was just too much for our Trailblazer to pull over a long distance. I find myself very comfortable pulling our 220 SD.

We love our boat and love Searay. Even our 2004 180 sport was a great boat for what it was. Just too small for our lake. We got tired of getting the crap beat out of us every weekend, and it had no head for the women :)
 
Re: how many passengers will a sundeck / bowrider

@chuck1 - the more the better, obviously, but I would say I would at least like it rated for 10.

I may be overthinking this, but I would like to be able to compare, for example, if a 1999 210 BR is rated for 10 passengers, and if a 1999 210 SD is rated for 10, how much more would I pay for the SD (or BR)? And would the differences be worth it, for example.

All that being said, I think a 240 in any style would be too big for me handle / drive / trailer / wife drive. So really I guess any boat with 12 passengers is going to be at least 240.

I want to be able to narrow down to exact styles and years so that I can keep my eye on Ebay etc to get sold pricing, so that when I'm ready to buy I can calculate a better price.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice.
 
skiing on the university of alabama water ski team (club sport) way back yonder, i have owned (mastercraft, nautique and moomba) and skied on my share of ski boats. having said that, i love my 2000 sea ray 210sd with 5.0 alpha, pulls my 210lbs up fine. i no longer run the slalom course but its more about my 2 kids now and being able to ski the lake one weekend and going up and down the intercoastal at st augustine the next weekend. max capacity is 10 and runs mid 40's with 5 adults and couple of kids. as far as the head goes, well its sitting in a box in the garage, wife thought the idea is gross and kids thought it was cool to use it every 5 minutes so out it went. to me, all boats are the same, take care of it and it runs/looks great, beat the crap out of it, never maintain it and its a peice of junk. all my boats have always been garaged and well taken care of so the label does not matter, its what fits your budget and what fits your need
 
We enjoy our 220SD. It stays in the boathouse, so I can't address ease of trailering, etc.
The head is plenty big for using in a pinch.
 
I had a 2009 Rinker 228 deck boat with a 5.0 MPI BIII that was very nice. It had a head with sink, power engine hatch, windlass, etc. and was priced less than Sea Ray but what else is new.
 
We just bought a very clean 2003 Sea Ray 220 SD after researching this type of boat for more than a year. It works very well in lakes and ocean since we live in Southern California. The 300HP 5.7L and Bravo III is a very nice combo. I owned our previous boat for 21 years (a Wellcraft 186 Eclipse) and the SD is SOOO MUCH BETTER...
john
 
We have to 5.0 and alpha and do a lot of tubing (three person) with not problems--love the boat.
 
Really? I think that boat is quite ugly compared to the Sundeck. I hate the bow shape :p

Is it me, or do our boats hold their value really well? You don't find many out there, and they are kind of on the expensive side. I have owned mine for 3 years now and I could sell it for what I owe....same as our 2004 180 sport.....sold it after 3 years for more than what I owed....

Weave said:
I love our Sundeck.....nothing compares but if I was forced to suggest something similar it would have to be the Regal Fas-Deck 2220
http://www.regalboats.com/2220
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A little late to respond to the OP's quest, but when we were shopping around, the Chaparral Sunesta seemed to be about the only other hybrid deckboat/bowrider with deep V hull.

There was a lightly used Sunesta at the SR dealer when we made the plunge - the kids actually liked the bright yellow blingy Sunesta with the horned bow, better than the Sundeck. But he who writes the checks (me) wins and we got the Sundeck.
 
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