What is the longest run you have done in one day on your searay?

Discussion in 'Sea Ray Lifestyle & Cruising' started by pog mo thon, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. pog mo thon

    pog mo thon Member

    99
    Aug 20, 2008
    Metedeconk river, brick NJ
    sea ray 320 sundancer v-drive
    twin 350's
    I am trying to get a feeling of what would be possible to do with my boat (not sure if my signature shows, 2007 320 sundancer 350's drives).

    I want to see if its possible for me to go from Manasquan inlet nj to Menemsha martha's vineyard in one (long day). My chart plotter says 8 hours straight at 22 knts but that is a straight line and I would most likely hug to coast. I was thinking to stop in Shinnecock inlet for fuel, I burn 25-28 gph.

    the furthest I have been in on day is to Montauk from tappan zee bridge NY but that was in the long island sound. I am concerned about open water from block island to MV with a 7 hours+ hot burning engines.
    Is it to long of a run for my gas engine?
    Beside the obvious things to look for (weather, charts, inlets and marina, alternative route in case of emergency) what other things should I be concerned about?

    Please go easy on me!! it's just a thought.
    I love MV and every time I go there, I am like damn I wish I had my boat....
    Unfortunately I don't have to many vacation days so I am ruling out any overnight stay in between.
     
  2. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    In this boat, I ran from Greenport, LI to Brick (Metedeconk River) in around 12 hours with 2 fuel stops. The stops were sort of "get it when you can" b/c this was the spring after Sandy and a lot of fuel docks were not up and running. First stop was Orient Point, second was Norwalk. We were going to run from Shinnecock to Manasquan straight line but the weather did not cooperate. Instead we went down the Sound and the East River and glad we did. Really nice ride.

    I had rented a 4 man life raft and an EPIRB b/c of the original plan to run outside. If you do what you are planning, I'd suggest you do the same. But more strongly, I'd suggest that if you have the time, take the ride up the East Side!
     
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  3. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 8212, 741 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    I've done 12+ hour days. Assuming your systems are in good condition, the heat isn't cumulative. Your engines should be happier after an 8 hour run than they would be with 8 cold starts and running 1 hour each.

    I'd be more worried about the skipper than the engines. Do you have auto-pilot? That helps for sure, but a few hours in, the best of us can start to lose focus.
     
  4. Vince_nj1

    Vince_nj1 Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Aug 25, 2008
    North Barnegat Bay
    2006 320 V-Drives 6.2s, Bow Thruster, Generator, Raymarine C80, Radar, Fish Finder
    6.2 Horizons 320HP
    I used to take a 30ft Sea Ray from Bayonne out to Jones Beach and back for the day. Usually the morning ride was nice and smooth, but the return was almost always nasty. Unable to get on plane, burning fuel and being punished. Martha's Vineyard is a long stretch of open water. Sea conditions will severely impact how your trip goes. This time of year is sketchy with hurricanes and tropical storms off shore. You could probably do it, but you will be exhausted and likely regret it 1/2 way into the trip. I would suggest a closer destination as a test run.
     
  5. Irie308

    Irie308 Member SILVER Sponsor

    687
    May 28, 2013
    CT
    320 Sundancer 2005, Raymarine C120 and C80
    Highfield 9.6 RIB & Tohatsu 8hp
    Previous boat: 215 expre
    350 Mercruisers V-drives
    We have the same boat and we did a run to MV form the CT coast a few weeks ago however we broke it up with a few overnight stops in Mystic CT and Newport RI. Would have loved to maximize our time in MV but we decided to keep the travel to under 2-3 hours per leg because we have young kids. I've also run from Zach's Bay to the Housatonic River in CT which wasn't too bad but we stopped mid way for a few hours and it made a world of difference. Total time was about 8 hours. I don't know about you but unless its complete glass i tend to sit on the bolsters or stand for most of the ride watching out for floating debris or fishing gear in the water. That wears on you after a few hours so I would plan to coordinate your fuel stops with a stop for lunch or a 1-2 hour break.. Also in our boat though we cruise at 23-24 knts during perfect conditions i'd say the average is closer to 19-22 knots with swells and chop. Not sure how it is running on the outside but in the sound wind and water conditions could change within hours. I'm just estimating but generally if my Nav says 8 hours i'd add another 3-4 for good measure.
     
  6. sea hare

    sea hare Member

    85
    May 14, 2012
    WI
    2001 fiesta vee 310
    T-merc 5.7 carbed B3
    I feel anything more than 100 miles in 1 sitting tends to get a little long
     
  7. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Ran my old 300 Sundancer for about 6 hours straight from the South Shore of Long Island (Lindenhurst) up to Kingston NY via the scenic route up through the East and Harlem Rivers with one fuel stop in Alpine NJ. Did the East and Harlem Rivers at 5 MPH to enjoy the sights. Weather and conditions were fantastic, but fatigue started setting in when I tied up in Kingston.
    I ran this boat home from Westbrook Ct. to the South Shore of Long Island this past April with no stops. Took the LI Sound through NYC and then the ocean back to Jones Inlet. Conditions were decent in the Sound, Hell Gate, East River, and NY Harbor. ocean was a bit of a mess for the 20 miles from Breezey Point to the Jones Inlet. Whole trip took a little more than 6 hours dock to dock.
    Adrenaline was high because I was excited about my new boat, and my brother was along for the ride so he took the wheel a couple of times for me, but when I got back to my home dock I was pretty glad to be there. First because it was good to get my new boat home, and second because it was a long day.
    Based on my past experience, I would plan trips with a max of 6 hours per day of running time. Four hours a day would be ideal, but 6 is my personal preferred max.
     
  8. Boater420

    Boater420 Active Member

    948
    Mar 11, 2015
    Clearwater, FL
    '97 330 Sundancer
    V-Drives
    Westerbeke 4.5BCG
    Twin Merc 454's
    Ran from Sanibel Island to Clearwater in 6 hours @ 20 knots, pounding through some heavy swells and my old gassers made it without a hiccup. I'd say if the motors are in good shape a good long run shouldn't hurt them at all, I'd like to say the same about the skipper but I was shot after that run and vowed to never take such a long run in those type seas again.
     
  9. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    6 hours straight standing at the helm @ 22-24 kts just about does me in... With all of the debris in the water, you are on high alert constantly.
     
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  10. saopm

    saopm Member

    700
    Oct 6, 2010
    North Fork - Long Island, NY
    2007 340 Sundancer
    Mercury 8.1s Inboards
    What your looking to do sounds like torture to me. I've done 4.5 hr run and was ready for a break. You are going to have stop for fuel around Montauk. Might as well stay the night. Gone Fishing Marina had the best gas price when I was out there last year.
     
  11. kvduff

    kvduff Member

    176
    Jun 22, 2011
    Northport ny
    CeTrick - 2006 320 da 6.2 mpi, v-drives, Raymarine c80 chart plotter/radar
    mercruiser 6.2 mpi mx horizon
    The boat would make it, but as others have said, it's a long trip and your ability to stay focused is just as important as the engine maintenance. Break up the trip, there are plenty of nice places to stay even if it's only one night. I recently took a boat from ocean city Maryland to south shore of Long Island with a licensed captain, the trip was around 190 miles, a little over 11.5 hours total, one stop for gas and some food in Atlantic City. It was grueling, it was physically and mentally exhausting.
     
  12. pog mo thon

    pog mo thon Member

    99
    Aug 20, 2008
    Metedeconk river, brick NJ
    sea ray 320 sundancer v-drive
    twin 350's
    I would only consider this trip if weather condition were ideal and all the stars lined up.
    I am a lot concerned with fuel stops as i prefer to run my stops with 35-40% fuel reserve.
    Manasquan to shinnecock is about 100 miles straight but no fuel option in between and I believe Manasquan to Montauk is stretching it a lot. Then Shinnecock to MV is another 100 miles with only Block island in between.
    Maybe some 320 owners can give me their 2 cents there.
    +1 for the EPIRB. Definitely a must, I will look into renting one.
     
  13. kvduff

    kvduff Member

    176
    Jun 22, 2011
    Northport ny
    CeTrick - 2006 320 da 6.2 mpi, v-drives, Raymarine c80 chart plotter/radar
    mercruiser 6.2 mpi mx horizon
    I have a 06- 320 - 377's inboards. My run from Northport to Block is around 85 miles, I can make it comfortably in 4.5 dock to dock or if I run higher Rpms i can do it in 3.5. Neither is very exhausting, most of it is within protected waters of the l.i. sound and gardiners bay, but past montauk, in open ocean, it is always more stressful. Your entire trip is basically open ocean. Lay over in montauk, west lake is a cheap option. Or take the journey up the east river and head for eastern points of the Ct coast. And leave for the vineyard in the morning. Beware of the block island fog, you should have an epirb and I would think you have radar. Know your radar, if that fog creeps in block island sound it can become uncomfortable very quickly.
     
  14. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    From Palm Beach FL, across the Okeechobee Waterway to Ft Myers, then up to Boca Grande. We watched the sun rise over the Atlantic and set over the Gulf of Mexico. It was a taxing 17 hour day considering that we had to deal with a fuel stop and several lock and bridge openings along the way. My boat is pretty well equipped with 2 plotters,s 2 VHF's, Radar, etc. but I could never have made that long a day without an auto pilot interfaced to the GPS & plotter.

    I'd do it again, on my boat, if I needed to, but I really think the practical limit due to fatigue and wantering attention span is more like 12 hours.
     
  15. In Two Deep

    In Two Deep Member

    215
    Aug 23, 2007
    Long Island Sound
    2001 340 Sundancer
    8.1 Mercruiser
    I find rare days when conditions are ideal from one end to the other on the Long Island Sound. One change in the wind or there are flood tides, and the conditions quickly change for the worse. There are some great porst and anchorages along the way if you plan your route right. Good luck if you do the trip!
     
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  16. k9medic

    k9medic Member

    495
    Mar 27, 2013
    Florida
    2005 23' twin engine jet boat
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin jet 160hp.
    twin 3116 CATs
    Hmmm... From memory -

    At cruise speed (16-17kts) non stop -
    Green Turtle Cay Bahamas to Stuart, FL
    Boca Grande, FL to Key West, FL

    At a mixture of speed during the day -
    Pensacola, FL to Carabelle, FL
    Sanibel Island, FL to Tarpon Springs, FL - two weeks ago
     
  17. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Left Cape Coral at dawn, got to Clearwater at 1237, fueled, departed at 1300, arrived at Panama City Beach at 2130 - 320 NM. Exhausted. Thanks to FrankW for helping us get fueled and in our slip at Treasure Island for the night. Too tired to eat. Had to make it in one day due to the bad Gulf weather forecast for the next week. Survived due to the autopilot and MANs that could cruise at 25 KTs - and Frank and Fran's help when we got there!
     
  18. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
    This is listed in my signature
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    I used to single hand from Harbor Springs to Spring Lake every year until retiring 7 years ago. That is a 250 mile run taking about 12 hours depending on weather. Did it in a 300 WeekEnder and 370 Express. Only done it once in the Tiara as the time pressure to return to work is gone. Do routinely make the run from Frankfort to SL which is about 140 miles. Just did that a week ago. New technology reduces the workload to watching screens, pushing buttons, updating the paper log, and looking for traffic out the windows.
     
  19. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    When our boat was on the east coast of FL, we would routinely run down to the keys - usually a 6-7 hour run each way to or from Marathon.

    6 hours is fine, when it gets over that I can feel the fatigue.

    We have crossed the big lake in FL a few times. Have done it both in 1 day trips and 2 day. For one day trips typically Sunset marina on the Stuart end to City Marina on the Ft Meyers end. Leaving either one early enough to have the nav lights on, pulling in at 5 or so in the afternoon on the other end. Long day. You get to where you look forward to the locks to get up move around and do something different for a few minutes.

    Longest/worst trip... We were on the West coast of FL, had to get back due to family issue. Weather was not good going down through the Keys - went back over the lake. Got to Stuart, Sea's too rough to go outside, turned down the ICW. Got to Palm Beach and spent the night.

    Next morning left on the ICW headed south. 10 hours +, most at no wake speed. Huge amount of time waiting for bridges to open - I forget how many but it was in the teens. Passed Ft Lauderdale, final 10 miles down to our marina. Saw the storm building - 15 minutes from our Marina the clouds opened up pouring rain. We were not going to linger to wait it out, pulled in and tied up in pouring rain. Slept well that night.

    Mark
     
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  20. Sea Gull

    Sea Gull Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    CT
    2015 L650 Fly #509
    CAT C-18, 1,150 HP
    In May we ran 305nm from Georgetown, SC to Coinjock, NC in 14 hours - just before dawn til after dark. Fuel stop in Morehead, SC. This was the longest of 5 straight days as we made our FL to CT run in 5 days.

    Of course I can be walking around standing in the galley, making an omelette while driving, which makes it more bearable. Carter is still my hero.
     
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