What is a high temperature? Did the mechanic hit them with a temp gun?
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Misterhelms
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Surveyor hit them with IR gun -3 of the 4 risers were between 190-196 degrees. The 4th riser was around 120 degrees.
Any temp change after the risers and impellers replaced? Maybe some bad hoses restricting flow? IDK, Not much else it could be?
douglee25
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Parts along are around $2500-3000 for genuine merc parts and new hardware. I just did my engines last summer. My riser elbows were stainless from the factory and saw no wear and generally are reusable (only if you had stainless). I replaced manifolds and the riser blocks. If you're mechanically inclined, do them yourself. The fact is... Whatever boat you buy, you're going to end up doing the manifolds and risers to give yourself a baseline. It may not be year #1, but likely #2 for sure. If you walk, you lose the $1000 you invested in this survey and then you have to repeat the process. Now you're in the hole 2k when survey the next boat when you could have put that towards parts on this one. It's possible that you may be able to separate the risers and manifolds and you just have sediment build up. Clean up the sediment, install new gaskets, and you may be on your way. You won't know until you investigate.
- Oct 6, 2006
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There are other boats, but you have invested time and money in your search to get down to the point where you have one issue to resolve.
Removing and checking a set of risers isn't a huge cost.......the mechanics here can break down a set of risers and inspect then in an hour or less per engine. So you would get the answer you want for about $200-$250. If the risers are full of rusty scale, then the seller has a boat that has failed a mechanical survey and he is kind of over a barrel with very little recourse other than renegotiate the price or replace the risers if he is going to sell his boat to you or anybody else for that matter. All this means is that your negotiating posture has improved from being a picky buyer to a qualified buyer who is ready to buy a boat.
Removing and checking a set of risers isn't a huge cost.......the mechanics here can break down a set of risers and inspect then in an hour or less per engine. So you would get the answer you want for about $200-$250. If the risers are full of rusty scale, then the seller has a boat that has failed a mechanical survey and he is kind of over a barrel with very little recourse other than renegotiate the price or replace the risers if he is going to sell his boat to you or anybody else for that matter. All this means is that your negotiating posture has improved from being a picky buyer to a qualified buyer who is ready to buy a boat.
I was under the impression that the riser/manifolds where replaced per the first post. Now as I re-read, it sounds like they where not. Just tried new impellers? I think you just may want to renegotiate with the seller to get something for the new risers/manifolds. He's stuck as well. Broker needs to do his job. 
Misterhelms
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***Update***
After a lot of contemplation and frustration we decided to walk away from the boat. As soon as I sent the rejection of vessel email, we were hit by the broker telling us the seller will bring the price down to $90k with conditional acceptance of vessel until a 2nd survey can be done. The most frustrating part was the run around from the broker and slow playing of the deal. It's been almost a month since we first saw the boat and made an offer. I still don't really understand what happened as they said they couldn't find a mechanic to look at the risers, yet they found someone to replace the impellers to the water pumps??
Fortunately, everything happens for a reason, and I found a beautiful 2004 Sea Ray 340 on this forum from @yv1 while this was all taking place. The biggest challenge was going to find a surveyor that wasn't a month out. As I was looking through the accredited website of surveyor's I noticed a last name that looked familiar. I texted a friend of mine to ask if they were related and sure enough, it was her dad. She called him and told him my situation and I was able to get a survey scheduled for yesterday. I drove 10 hours to see the boat and have the inspection performed. The boat was beautiful! This was the 4th boat we were considering and with all the ups and downs through the summer, it was a nice feeling to finally find a boat you really felt good about purchasing.
I drove back to NJ late last night and finished all of the paperwork today. We hope to close on the deal late next week and take possession shortly afterwards.
Thanks everyone for the advice, and thanks to @yv1 for an amazing boat. I look forward to getting to know everyone on there and learning everything I can about my new boat. I know the mantra - If there aren't pictures, it didn't happen, so here you go -
After a lot of contemplation and frustration we decided to walk away from the boat. As soon as I sent the rejection of vessel email, we were hit by the broker telling us the seller will bring the price down to $90k with conditional acceptance of vessel until a 2nd survey can be done. The most frustrating part was the run around from the broker and slow playing of the deal. It's been almost a month since we first saw the boat and made an offer. I still don't really understand what happened as they said they couldn't find a mechanic to look at the risers, yet they found someone to replace the impellers to the water pumps??
Fortunately, everything happens for a reason, and I found a beautiful 2004 Sea Ray 340 on this forum from @yv1 while this was all taking place. The biggest challenge was going to find a surveyor that wasn't a month out. As I was looking through the accredited website of surveyor's I noticed a last name that looked familiar. I texted a friend of mine to ask if they were related and sure enough, it was her dad. She called him and told him my situation and I was able to get a survey scheduled for yesterday. I drove 10 hours to see the boat and have the inspection performed. The boat was beautiful! This was the 4th boat we were considering and with all the ups and downs through the summer, it was a nice feeling to finally find a boat you really felt good about purchasing.
I drove back to NJ late last night and finished all of the paperwork today. We hope to close on the deal late next week and take possession shortly afterwards.
Thanks everyone for the advice, and thanks to @yv1 for an amazing boat. I look forward to getting to know everyone on there and learning everything I can about my new boat. I know the mantra - If there aren't pictures, it didn't happen, so here you go -
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douglee25
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Well that was quick! Nice looking boat!
Misterhelms
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Thanks! Trying to salvage what’s left of the season!
CaptRonn
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- May 25, 2016
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Glad it worked out to your favor.
wyrman
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It sounds like the owner of the other boat needs to fire his broker.
BTW, congratulations on your new boat.
BTW, congratulations on your new boat.
Tripsdad
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Beautiful boat. Congratulations!
Tacoma290
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Looks like you win! Congratulations, great boat.
GnrlPatton
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Congrats on the new beautiful boat! Everything happens for a reason, the previous boat wasn't meant to be for you. Enjoy what's left of the boating season!
Kevin
Kevin
