Wax/Buff Hull

Discussion in 'Modifications/Customizations' started by Kyle L, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Kyle L

    Kyle L New Member

    3
    Sep 2, 2018
    2004 Sea Ray Sundancer 280
    Twin 4.3L Mercury
    We got a price to have our hull buffed and wax, just wondering how challenging this is and if it’s something worth doing myself? We have a 280 Sundancer.
     
  2. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
    This is listed in my signature
    This is listed in my signature
    IMG_1179.JPG I've done mine for years and do a much better job than the yard does. It takes 16 hours to buff and wax a 32 Tiara. Sadly, arthritis now forces me to hire it done the past two years. If you are able, do it.
     

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  3. Todd320

    Todd320 Active Member

    562
    Jul 21, 2016
    St. Petersburg, FL
    2007 Sea Ray 320DA
    Twin V-drive 5.7L 350 Horizon
    800$ for my 320, so I do it myself, but it is hard. 280 should be easier, especially if white.
     
  4. JimG

    JimG Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2008
    Southern WV
    2007 310 DA
    Kohler 5ECD
    Twin 350 Mags
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drives
    You have to have the tools... a good buffer and pads. Then a pint of BuffMagic.
     
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  5. Craig

    Craig Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    241
    Feb 8, 2007
    Maryland
    2006 320 Sundancer
    twin 350 Horizon V drives
    Did it for years myself. Last year I started paying. Now I just buff my empty wallet.
     
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  6. douglee25

    douglee25 Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    NJ
    Boatless
    Big ones!
    Lol!
     
  7. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    347
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    I have a blue 280 and thought it was pretty easy - but it was in heated storage. I did 1 coat of cleaner, 1 coat polish and 2 coats of wax and it took less than a day. Note: that included doing the foredeck and a quick waxing of the stainless. If you're outside and the hull is cold it'll be more challenging. I like doing my own waxing because then I know where every imperfection/hull scrape is located.
     
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  8. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    Good as long as aging body parts will do it.

    One theme that is constant in this type tread, anyone paid to professionally buff and wax a boat are, "idiots, or do a poor job". That is not entirely true, there are some pros out there that are as good or better than the best member here and there are certainly a good number of pros better than the average member. I understand many companies the owner is good and the untrained employees are not, but not all who work for hire are bad and many are better than the average DIY.

    MM
     
  9. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    262
    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 540's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    Too much for me. Mine takes about 3.5 days top to bottom.
     
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  10. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I just did my 410 this past weekend.
    Only did below the rubrails with my Makita and wool pads.
    I put in a lot of time and effort and polished it pretty well last winter so this time I was able to just use an all in one (cleaner wax) product. The surface was in really good shape with no oxidation. I just cleaned it really well before I got started.
    I did above the rails a few weeks ago when it was still in the water.
    Had to do it solo this year since my son is away at school and everyone else had plans.
    Started at about 9:00 Saturday morning, knocked off when it started to get dark at about 4:30. Back Sunday morning at 9:00 and finished at about 1:30.
    My 64 year old body feels more like 84, but at least it’s done.
    Up and down the ladders and moving them wastes a lot of time.
    Was much quicker last year with a helper.
    Get one if you can.
    One guy just apply the product to the surface and the other stay on the machine. Cuts time considerably.
    I’ll touch up whatever spots on the sides that need it when I take the shrinkwrap off in March, then apply two coats (for coverage) of Collinite Insulator Wax by hand before it gets splashed.
    Hand waxing with a helper goes quick too. One guy apply and the other buff with micro fibers. Second coat goes faster than the first.
    If I have time to hit above the rubrails before it gets splashed I will. If not, no big deal, I’ll do that at my dock.
     
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  11. Larry Sturm

    Larry Sturm Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    125
    Mar 26, 2017
    Chiefland, Florida
    2003 SeaRay 420 Sundancer
    2003 SeaRay 320 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA8.3-M3
    Mercruiser 350MPI
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    Just waxed and sealed my 320 with the help of my daughter. Took us two full days. Can’t find anyone to do it to my standards in this area. The guys that do it here charge $750 and it looks like crap.
     
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  12. WV 320 Dancer

    WV 320 Dancer Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    169
    Oct 28, 2018
    2003 Sea Ray Sundancer 320
    Twin 350 MAG - V Drive
    Go to Shurhold’s website and they have a ton of videos on how to do everything from start to finish. Even if you don’t use their product (Buff Magic - made by Shurhold is a must have), they have excellent how too’s To guide you on your way. And yes I do use their products (I also use others as well). Good luck and send us the before and after!!
     
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  13. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    Looks really nice.

    MM
     
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  14. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    We pay $30 a foot in Chattanooga for a compound and wax. They do a great job - when we arrive in
    FL everybody wants to know who did it. My 70+ year old body doesn't do it anymore!
     
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  15. M Prod

    M Prod Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    574
    Oct 6, 2017
    North Vancouver, BC
    2005 Sundancer 340
    Aquapro Dinghy w/ Honda 8hp
    Kohler 5KW Genny
    Raymarine Electronics
    8.1 Horizons /V Drives
    There is an amazing sense of pride one feels after spending 3 days compounding, waxing, and polishing. Can't say the same for how my back felt. No pride in my back apparently.

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  16. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    True very true... But I am done paying to find out I didn't get the pro as promised....and these were very reliable recommendations... So this year I am going to get the boat back to my standards myself.
     
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  17. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    It sucks that it can be difficult to find the pros that will do it right. I am beginning that search myself for the new boat. Sad my guys in Indy can't do it.

    MM
     
  18. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Here's a shot when I had her hauled out in 2014. I was 68 at the time. I waxed everything below the rub rail and applied two coats of bottom paint. After she went back in the water I did everything from the rub rail up. Easey Peasey.

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    Here's a shot two years later and she was still looking good.
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    Keeping your boat under cover sure helps to maintain the gelcoat.
     
  19. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
    This is listed in my signature
    This is listed in my signature
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    Polished with a wool wheel at 1200 rpms using Finesse It followed by Flagship liquid wax applied with another wool pad at 1200 rpms. Residue removed with clean, soft white towels. Collinite used above the rub rail after it is in the water at our home.
     
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  20. Kyle L

    Kyle L New Member

    3
    Sep 2, 2018
    2004 Sea Ray Sundancer 280
    Twin 4.3L Mercury
    Appreciate all the comments! You guys have motivated me to do it myself. What products do you all recommend?
     

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