Video frustration...software

Nehalennia

Nehalennia

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I'm a little frustrated. We took some great video on our way to and from Poulsbo this weekend. I have an older Version of Studio 9(by Pinnacle) which came with an analog to Digital converter I bought a few years ago. We had the old Analog camcorder and this unit was great to pull onto the computer, digitize, edit and makes some great video. Anyways, like many older programs go this one has some gliches. I now have a great JVC HDD Video camera, so no need for the converter, but the software I was still using.
Anyway in my attempts to edit the video to post and share....POOF... it froze and corrupted the video ,essentially erasing it.
I may try Pinnacle's new Studio 12 but I'm a little frustrated with them right now. Also I'm contemplating getting a new computer so I may not do anything until then(Christmastime)

So I don't trust it and will be seeking advice from those that have a decent, robust Video editting software.

Thanks in advance
 
you can always buy a mac. comes with all the software you need. And if you buy a newish one with the intel chips, you can run windows too. I bought a 6 month old loaded macbook pro on ebay for $1200.
 
I've been considering a MAC, but know nothing about them. I've seen you and Gary(and others) tout the benefits and features. I may have to look into it further. I want to move this PC over for the kids to use once we get a new one. I'd like a desktop for home as well.
 
Ahhhgh, Don't fall for those ploys by the MAC guys to bring you over to the dark side. There's only a couple of people who use MAC's anyway; I think they both frequent this forum. :grin:

Have you given Windows Movie Maker on XP or Vista a chance? I've used it quite a bit. Only thing I don't like is that you can only convert to .wmv format. But I usually edit it, then process it back to .avi, and then use other programs to turn it into flash video, mpeg, etc. It's not actually that bad. And it has never wiped out my movie; that sucks!
 
Gunn said:
Ahhhgh, Don't fall for those ploys by the MAC guys to bring you over to the dark side. There's only a couple of people who use MAC's anyway; I think they both frequent this forum. :grin:

Have you given Windows Movie Maker on XP or Vista a chance? I've used it quite a bit. Only thing I don't like is that you can only convert to .wmv format. But I usually edit it, then process it back to .avi, and then use other programs to turn it into flash video, mpeg, etc. It's not actually that bad. And it has never wiped out my movie; that sucks!
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Yes, I've used it, but it is a pretty simplistic software program. Pinnacle Studio 9 is really pretty good, but this older version is unstable. I may get version 12, but MAC I have heard has great Movie making capabilites.
 
I upgraded to a Sony Hi-Def camcorder last year that records in AVCHD format on DVDs. (I regret not spending the extra money to record to a harddrive) I believe Panasonic also uses AVCHD format for hi-def. My only word of caution is that if you are considering going that route, there are very few software choices for working with that format. I believe Pinancle was going to start to support it with the latest release. I am using the software that Sony provided and it is limited.

The other down side to going with AVCHD is that you may have other compatibility issues down the road. For instance I use my PC as a media center on my home network. I then use my X-box 360 to pull videos and pictures from my PC and display them on my 58" PLasma. It works well, but X-box/Windows Media player doesn’t have a codex to run AVCHD videos. So I have to convert the AVCHD videos to a different (non HD) format to allow my X-box to play them. Which raises the obvious question, why record in AVCHD and then convert to something lower? I keep both copies and with the hope/expectation that Windows Media player will someday recognize AVCHD videos.

Also, be sure to back up your hard drive. I lost everything 2 years ago, when the 250 Gb Western Digital hard drive in my 10 month old Sony PC failed. I now have a Seagate 750 gb external drive with software (Freeagent pro) that automatically copies any new files that I put on my hard drive over to my external unit. It won’t protect me if my house burns down, but I should be able to recover from another hard drive failure pretty quickly.

It’s a lot of work. I hope one day my kids appreciate it.
 
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I just posted running windows on my Mac.
 
running both at the same time. No need to decide anymore.
 
Vince_nj1 said:
I upgraded to a Sony Hi-Def camcorder last year that records in AVCHD format on DVDs. (I regret not spending the extra money to record to a harddrive) I believe Panasonic also uses AVCHD format for hi-def. My only word of caution is that if you are considering going that route, there are very few software choices for working with that format. I believe Pinancle was going to start to support it with the latest release. I am using the software that Sony provided and it is limited.

The other down side to going with AVCHD is that you may have other compatibility issues down the road. For instance I use my PC as a media center on my home network. I then use my X-box 360 to pull videos and pictures from my PC and display them on my 58" PLasma. It works well, but X-box/Windows Media player doesn’t have a codex to run AVCHD videos. So I have to convert the AVCHD videos to a different (non HD) format to allow my X-box to play them. Which raises the obvious question, why record in AVCHD and then convert to something lower? I keep both copies and with the hope/expectation that Windows Media player will someday recognize AVCHD videos.

Also, be sure to back up your hard drive. I lost everything 2 years ago, when the 250 Gb Western Digital hard drive in my 10 month old Sony PC failed. I now have a Seagate 750 gb external drive with software (Freeagent pro) that automatically copies any new files that I put on my hard drive over to my external unit. It won’t protect me if my house burns down, but I should be able to recover from another hard drive failure pretty quickly.

It’s a lot of work. I hope one day my kids appreciate it.
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I have a JVC Everio HDD(hard disk Drive) Camera now. The Hard Disk seems like the way to go but it's not High Def. I transfer everything to an external HD as well. It's a great camera but I need to upgrade the Software and maybe the 'puter too.

Mike
I'll go look at an Apple store what's out there. I do know they're quite a bit more $$ than PC's but it may be worth it if there's less headaches. We'll see.
 
Nehalennia said:
I'm a little frustrated. We took some great video on our way to and from Poulsbo this weekend. I have an older Version of Studio 9(by Pinnacle) which came with an analog to Digital converter I bought a few years ago. We had the old Analog camcorder and this unit was great to pull onto the computer, digitize, edit and makes some great video. Anyways, like many older programs go this one has some gliches. I now have a great JVC HDD Video camera, so no need for the converter, but the software I was still using.
Anyway in my attempts to edit the video to post and share....POOF... it froze and corrupted the video ,essentially erasing it.
I may try Pinnacle's new Studio 12 but I'm a little frustrated with them right now. Also I'm contemplating getting a new computer so I may not do anything until then(Christmastime)

So I don't trust it and will be seeking advice from those that have a decent, robust Video editting software.

Thanks in advance
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Pinnacle is notorious for buggy software. I had it and got tired of the crashes. I would look at the Ulead product. Great video software, good price.
 
Thanks. I fixed the video I was fussing with. Luckily I had saved it elsewhere so I was able to start over. I'll post it in a new thread
 
Sony's Vegas Platinum is a decent video editor. I use it with clips from a Canon HF100 hi-def camcorder. But beware if you're considering hi-def, it is VERY demanding of your computer if you plan on using it for playback or editing. You basically can't use anything less than a dual core 2ghz machine if you plan on full HD resolution.
 
I downloaded Pinnacle Studio 12 and the transitions are useless. I had Studio 9 and thought 12 would be better. No joy. I keep waiting for fixes.
 
2000SEARAY280SS said:
I downloaded Pinnacle Studio 12 and the transitions are useless. I had Studio 9 and thought 12 would be better. No joy. I keep waiting for fixes.
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aaaaahhhh Don't say that. I'm downloading the upgrade as we speak:smt021
 
Mostly the problems are the menu and chapter transitions. I found a couple of forums by searching on the title of the transitions and studio 12. Several other folks had the problem so it was not my configuration. I also tried reinstalling Java no joy. :smt089

After loading it the DVD writer reader was no longer recognized by XP. I had to do a reg edit and perform this fix.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060

This can happen any time you load a video authoring program. I am sure this would never happen with a Mac. If you believe the adds. Love the adds.
 
Reading through this thread I was shocked to see not one person mention the two greatest video editing programs known to man..... Adobe Premiere Pro (for PC) and Final Cut Pro (for Mac)....

I have used both programs.... And love what they both offer.... I run PP primarily because we have a PC at the house.... But would LOVE to buy a Mac JUST TO RUN FCP!

The learning curve on both programs in quite extensive, but to me, well worth it...

Windows Movie Maker will do everything you may be looking to do (editing video, scrolling text, fades and wipes, etc) but once you get a taste of a "Robust editing system" the possibilities are endless!

Just my two cents!
 
There were (still are?) problems with support for hi-def camcorders (AVCHD format) in FCP and CS.
 
wkearney99 said:
There were (still are?) problems with support for hi-def camcorders (AVCHD format) in FCP and CS.
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Yeah like 5 years ago when the format was launched. Even then it wasn't a "problem", just had to use an intermediate codec.

there was also a problem when audio recordings went from mono to stereo, but they've fixed that now. Scurvy used to be a problem too.


FC studio is the most awesomenest suite of programs for the consumer to date. It's been mentioned before and everyone jumped up and down saying it was too expensive. so I don't mention that anymore.

iMovie and iDVD that comes with macs are more than enough to create great home movies.
 
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