VesselView configuring question

[Captsteve427]

I believe that's the pigtail feeding the Smartcraft harness. If you can trace that line it should lead to the ER harness that then goes up to the helm. You can replace that plug with one that goes into your converter of choice, make a splice into the harness. Another option is to make the connection at the helm, either by using one of the left-over DieselView cables or make a new J-box connector, which is what I did. Since I didn't have NMEA 2K in the ER, this made sense for me.

So, you had genset data on your dieselview before upgrading to a vesselview and then used the Yacht Devices to convert from J1939 to NEMA2k by using the harness from the genset NIM output that goes to the helm, then into your NEMA backbone? I don't recall seeing any harnesses at the helm labeled GENSET NIM, but would imagine that when I tone them out, they would be found in one of the J-boxes.

Did you have to cut any of the NIM jumpers? What about those resistor caps that I've seen mentioned in other posts?

 

[alnav]

So, you had genset data on your dieselview before upgrading to a vesselview and then used the Yacht Devices to convert from J1939 to NEMA2k by using the harness from the genset NIM output that goes to the helm, then into your NEMA backbone? I don't recall seeing any harnesses at the helm labeled GENSET NIM, but would imagine that when I tone them out, they would be found in one of the J-boxes.

Did you have to cut any of the NIM jumpers? What about those resistor caps that I've seen mentioned in other posts?

Steve, yes, I had gen-set data on my DieselView and that seems to have been pretty standard on boats of our vintage. The CAN V signals from the NIM become part of the overall Smartcraft data stream where the NIM pigtail is connected. But they are discrete wires inside the Smartcraft harness so you won't find any "Genset" cables at the helm. So, the signal should be going into your J-box and can be extracted using the correct pins. The signal then goes to your J1939 converter which is connected to N2K on its other side. Once the J1939 is converted to N2K, your VesselView can see it (as can any other capable devices) and display the generator data.
From your picture it looks like you have the standard NIM set up for Smartcraft data. To convert it to J1939, you will need to cut Jumper W2. I cant see Jumper W5 which is down to the left of the lower left connector but it should already be cut. And yes, you will need to make sure there is proper resistance based on how you connect. My J-Box already had a resistor plug.
There are several good posts about this from others who have done it, especially from @ttmott. If you can't find what you need, I'm sure I and others will re-post.

 

[Blown284]

That was it, thnx!
There are so much information that this unit can display and different ways to display it. Now that is working correctly, I'm going to print out the manual and start playing with them all to find what works best for my needs.
My next goal is to find out more about the Martron gateway and see if I can get my gen set info to display on this VV502.

Now that you have the VV702 working..... was it just plug and play and did you lose any functionality that SC5000 had?

 

[Captsteve427]

Now that you have the VV702 working..... was it just plug and play and did you lose any functionality that SC5000 had?

Tim - It's a VV502 and was plug and play. I had already purchased the VV before I got the boat back home and swapped it out a couple of days afterward. I had a smartcraft 5000 in a previously owned gas powered Searay, which is basically the same as the dieselview 5000, so I didn't bother playing with it much on the ride back home, since it was getting replaced. There may be a possibility that the dieselview displayed gen set data, but I'll never know, since the gen set data is supported by J1939 and the VV502 is NEMA2k. As you may have read, I've attempting to convert that data to NEMA2k, but have put it on the back burner for now, to work on other updates.

 

[ttmott]

Tim - It's a VV502 and was plug and play. I had already purchased the VV before I got the boat back home and swapped it out a couple of days afterward. I had a smartcraft 5000 in a previously owned gas powered Searay, which is basically the same as the dieselview 5000, so I didn't bother playing with it much on the ride back home, since it was getting replaced. There may be a possibility that the dieselview displayed gen set data, but I'll never know, since the gen set data is supported by J1939 and the VV502 is NEMA2k. As you may have read, I've attempting to convert that data to NEMA2k, but have put it on the back burner for now, to work on other updates.

@Captsteve427 - the Gen data is supported on the Smartcraft CAN V network not SAE J1939.
Mercury has discontinued supporting the Smartcraft CAN V; that's why the generator's data doesn't show up on the Vessel View devices.
We have found a way to convert the Smartcraft network interface module inside of the generator to output SAE J1939.
Then through a Maretron SAE J1939 to NMEA 2000 converter (P/N J2K100) we convert that generator's J1939 data to NMEA 2000 and then we can view it on the Vessel View products as well as any other NMEA 2000 display.