V Drives Transmission Rattle

Discussion in 'Sport Cruisers' started by mquiet, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. tbirdvet

    tbirdvet Active Member

    Sep 24, 2009
    Michigan
    Previous boat: 2008 330 Sundancer
    Vetus Bow Thruster
    Kohler Gen.
    Twin 496 MAG, 375HP Bravo III,
    Never heard of this one. Can you explain?
     
  2. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    There's a long thread about this issue. I'm on Delta right now using GoGo Internet and it's a little slow with the free usage and I can't find it right now.

    I had it happen to my port 8.1 V Drive at 225 hours. Noticed a slight surging underway and a raw gas smell at idle as well.

    Replaced the plugs and all symptoms are gone. MM supposedly replaced the plugs at 140 hours, but I now doubt it.
     
  3. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Guys, last I checked "Cummings" engines don't have spark plugs or spark plug wires.
     
  4. lobstamon

    lobstamon New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2010
    florida
    Searay 460 1999
    Engine Brand: Cummins
    Engine Model: 6CTA 8.3m
    This is a diesel engine!
    As said, there IS no plugs or wires.
    The engine sounds fine, comes up to RPM, keeps up with the other engine.
    My mechanic told me there were rubber blocks that absorb the shock loads in the damper & he pointed out the black rubber small chunks coming from the bellhousing where it lives.
    The question is, how much should this cost?
    I called 3 different parts places to check his price (all around $650), but I have no way to check his labor quote ($4,500) <ouch!
     
  5. Kreole Kid

    Kreole Kid Active Member

    May 25, 2009
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    2004 340 Sundancer - SOLD
    2008 Yamaha VX1100 Jet Ski - SOLD
    BOATLESS
    8.1 Horizons, V-Drives
    What type of Boat are you looking at buying:huh:Reason I'm asking because I see you already have a 340 and I had a very similar issue. Check out the thread entitled "Transmission Woes" that Hans started and that should be helpful to you.

    I solved my problem by replacing the spark plugs.

    Good Luck:thumbsup:
     
  6. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    I must not have read the thread correctly - I thought the OP was talking about his 340 gasser....

    Sorry
     
  7. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Don't worry Carter - I won't tell any of the guys at the secret site about this!!
     
  8. lobstamon

    lobstamon New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2010
    florida
    Searay 460 1999
    Engine Brand: Cummins
    Engine Model: 6CTA 8.3m
    Well, anyone else had this done on a diesel engine?
     
  9. lobstamon

    lobstamon New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2010
    florida
    Searay 460 1999
    Engine Brand: Cummins
    Engine Model: 6CTA 8.3m
    Or, has anyone done this on a 460 w/ gas engines?
    The damper plate most are talking about here are the steel ones w/ metal springs that absorb the engine shocks(or drive train mishaps).
    The damper I'm talking about has rubber to absorb the shock loads, the rubber has disintegrated, so now I have metal on metal contact that makes a horrible clunk when engaged, gets worse when throttle goes up alittle, ten goes away (mostly).
    There is quite a pile of rubber that is on top of the bellhousing vent, & in the bilge under it.
    I just tring to figure out the cost it should be.
    One estimate was to remove the engine & cockpit section(@ a cost of $7-9K)then, have a Cummings dealer take care of the damper as the yard that removed the cockpit only deals w/ Searays, not the Cummings engines of ZF transmissions they tell me.
    The removal of the dampers & installations were to be an extra $2,000+.
    So, now the $4500 quote is starting to sound good.
    It is a big engine, & does fit pretty snug!

    Anyone?
     
  10. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Secret site? That's a fantasy. Besides, it would only be for guys with MANs...
     
  11. mistercomputerman

    mistercomputerman Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 6, 2008
    Virginia Beach, VA
    410 Sundancer - 2001
    Twin 8.1L Mercruisers - 2009

    Probably be a bunch o' snobs if there were such a place.
     
  12. lobstamon

    lobstamon New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2010
    florida
    Searay 460 1999
    Engine Brand: Cummins
    Engine Model: 6CTA 8.3m
    Has anyone here done this job on a similar boat?
    Just trying to make my boat right w/o getting ripped off!
    I've read many posts here with people re powering, giving exact quotes for engines, etc.
    What is a reasonable cost for this job?
    Thanks, & Happy Holidays!
     
  13. barlow

    barlow Member

    300
    Feb 28, 2009
    Marlborough Sounds, New Zealand
    450 Sundancer
    3116 T/A Cats 350 hp
    You could always contact the guys at Precision Marine in New York 914-235-4023 and ask for an estimate. I had a trans replaced there( ZF 85 IV) and found the service great.
    I realise they are a long way from you but at least they would give you some idea what you could expect and prices are reasonable on parts.
     
  14. CJ Martin

    CJ Martin Member

    762
    Oct 4, 2006
    Great Mills, MD
    2002 320DA
    350MAG Horizons / V-drives
    Yeah, no gassers allowed, I'm sure. Damn oil burning snobs...

    -CJ
     
  15. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    Must be a Man-ly site ! If it really exists.
     
  16. quality time

    quality time Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Upper Chesapeake Bay
    2003 480DB
    QSM11's
    I keep hearing people talk about this "secret site", does it really exist? What's the address? :huh:
     
  17. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    It's secret.......
     
  18. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Oy vey. Here we go again!
     
  19. quality time

    quality time Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Upper Chesapeake Bay
    2003 480DB
    QSM11's
    Well excuse me then. I bet they don't even talk about boats on that site anyway...

    I bet that guy with the Marlow knows the address since he has MANS.
     
  20. autovette

    autovette New Member

    210
    Dec 4, 2009
    USA
    62 Trawler
    Man's
    A man-ly man to be sure ....,,,,.... and we talk about financial deals.......and pigs.
     

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