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Woody said:
This isn't real is it?...I hope
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I love how all the snowflakes are crying. Elon fires 3500 people and the snowflakes start pouting, the msm jumps up and down, but when Facebook (or Meta) is the first company to lose $1T in market capitalization and does their own RIF, crickets....:rolleyes:
 
MSM controls everything now. Even who wins and loses elections. Their slanted views poisons the minds of the younger generation. Never heard a peep about Fetterman pulling a shotgun on a young black jogger about 10 years ago, did ya? Or hear them talk about him not having a job until he was 49? He was mayor of a small town near me making about $300/month. His dad paid him about $50k per year to live off of. And he 'bought' his house off his sister for $1? Yet you heard everything there was bad to hear about Mastriano. I wasn't a big fan of Mastriano either and didn't vote for him in the primaries but my point is never heard anything negative about Fetterman. And that a$$ clown Stepanopolous is so biased I don't know how anyone can ever believe anything he says
 
boatman37 said:
MSM controls everything now. Even who wins and loses elections. Their slanted views poisons the minds of the younger generation. Never heard a peep about Fetterman pulling a shotgun on a young black jogger about 10 years ago, did ya? Or hear them talk about him not having a job until he was 49? He was mayor of a small town near me making about $300/month. His dad paid him about $50k per year to live off of. And he 'bought' his house off his sister for $1? Yet you heard everything there was bad to hear about Mastriano. I wasn't a big fan of Mastriano either and didn't vote for him in the primaries but my point is never heard anything negative about Fetterman. And that a$$ clown Stepanopolous is so biased I don't know how anyone can ever believe anything he says
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Sorry man. I thought IL voters topped the stupidity rankings. Thanks PA for taking us down one spot. Elected Fetterman. Ha. :)
 
Gawd I wish there was a way to have shorted Twitter the day Musk bought it. What an impulsive train wreck of a business plan.
 
Creekwood said:
Gawd I wish there was a way to have shorted Twitter the day Musk bought it. What an impulsive train wreck of a business plan.
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I think you might be surprisingly wrong thinking a short would be profitable. He is strategically realigning that top heavy mess called Twitter and will turn it around. The banks wouldn't back him on a poor business plan. The media is errant in their representation (nothing new here) of what is happening. One thing about that man is he is surrounded by the right people to make the best decisions. Isn't it odd that someone that checks many of the politically liberal boxes is shunned by the liberal's? Something under the Twitter sheets smells bad.
 
ttmott said:
I think you might be surprisingly wrong thinking a short would be profitable. He is strategically realigning that top heavy mess called Twitter and will turn it around. The banks wouldn't back him on a poor business plan. The media is errant in their representation (nothing new here) of what is happening. One thing about that man is he is surrounded by the right people to make the best decisions. Isn't it odd that someone that checks many of the politically liberal boxes is shunned by the liberal's? Something under the Twitter sheets smells bad.
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We'll see. I think there is a better than 50% chance that Twitter declares bankruptcy and the lenders are running it in less than 6 months. Time will tell.

And this has NOTHING to do with politics. It's about running a business.
 
Creekwood said:
And this has NOTHING to do with politics. It's about running a business.
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So, Twitter will become a privately held company which will be afforded the advantages of US privately held businesses. Isn't it a bit rich that our political leaders are "concerned" with foreign investors and that it's a potential national security threat? Isn't it a bit rich that the press is questioning the POTUS about an "investigation" into Musk and Twitter? How about the uproar in congress over the Musk acquisition of Twitter?
It's all about politics and the influence on the business in this case.
 
ttmott said:
So, Twitter will become a privately held company which will be afforded the advantages of US privately held businesses. Isn't it a bit rich that our political leaders are "concerned" with foreign investors and that it's a potential national security threat? Isn't it a bit rich that the press is questioning the POTUS about an "investigation" into Musk and Twitter? How about the uproar in congress over the Musk acquisition of Twitter?
It's all about politics and the influence on the business in this case.
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My comment is only about how Musk is "fixing" Twitter. Firing all of the executives and half of the workforce within weeks of taking control is an impulsive move. Maybe his due diligence work (his advisors) helped formulate this strategy. Maybe not. The government did not make these decisions. That is all I am talking about. The business side of it.
 
Creekwood said:
My comment is only about how Musk is "fixing" Twitter. Firing all of the executives and half of the workforce within weeks of taking control is an impulsive move. Maybe his due diligence work (his advisors) helped formulate this strategy. Maybe not. The government did not make these decisions. That is all I am talking about. The business side of it.
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Yes, I get it. But, look at it from this perspective - Let's say I acquire a business and as a part of that is a plan to organize and align the business to my vision. Let's also say the business is well established and has ingrained principals and attitude that doesn't align with my (the owner) vision. Worse yet those employees that hold the principals and attitude are publicly vocal about it. Impulsive to make significant change? Maybe not.
 
ttmott said:
Yes, I get it. But, look at it from this perspective - Let's say I acquire a business and as a part of that is a plan to organize and align the business to my vision. Let's also say the business is well established and has ingrained principals and attitude that doesn't align with the owner's vision. Worse yet those employees that hold the principals and attitude are publicly vocal about it. Impulsive to make significant change? Maybe not.
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I'll add that people like Musk are not "impulsive"; they are informed, calculating, and foreseeing. They have a background that establishes them as sought-after business leaders which is a political malignancy. In this case our politicians and "journalists" are oncologists that earned their degree at the local Holiday Inn. Musk is unusual in that he is all about the human future which in many cases does not align with traditional business practice. Regardless, you can't argue with his successes, right?
 
ttmott said:
I'll add that people like Musk and not "impulsive"; they are informed, calculating, and foreseeing. They have a background that establishes them as sought-after business leaders which is a political malignancy. In this case our politicians are oncologists that earned their degree at the local Holiday Inn. Musk is unusual in that he is all about the human future which in many cases does not align with traditional business practice. Regardless, you can't argue with his successes right?
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Well, time will tell. Lots of people that develop successful businesses then have significant business failures at times. I agree he has had success in his first venture, and arguably with Tesla (which is interesting given the political rants evolving in the thread I started about a Model 3 on the Nürburgring. That went sideways in a hurry and from the anti-EV political rants, that would seem to imply that many believe he is on the dark side - but I digress). The jury is out on Twitter and as I said, time will tell.
 
ttmott said:
I'll add that people like Musk and not "impulsive"; they are informed, calculating, and foreseeing. They have a background that establishes them as sought-after business leaders which is a political malignancy. In this case our politicians and "journalists" are oncologists that earned their degree at the local Holiday Inn. Musk is unusual in that he is all about the human future which in many cases does not align with traditional business practice. Regardless, you can't argue with his successes, right?
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Very well put. On a basic level, same with the banks. For example - why are there 30 year mortgages if the world is going to end in 10 years?
 
Creekwood said:
My comment is only about how Musk is "fixing" Twitter. Firing all of the executives and half of the workforce within weeks of taking control is an impulsive move. Maybe his due diligence work (his advisors) helped formulate this strategy. Maybe not. The government did not make these decisions. That is all I am talking about. The business side of it.
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No it’s not. It’s 100% the right move. You need to set the tone quickly otherwise there will be sabotage. The big issue is the “advertisers” being bullied to stop advertising.
 
Golfman25 said:
No it’s not. It’s 100% the right move. You need to set the tone quickly otherwise there will be sabotage. The big issue is the “advertisers” being bullied to stop advertising.
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No corporation is being bullied. They are doing what they think should be done based on their business decisions and expectations of their customer base's views. If they are wrong, they are wrong. Time will tell on that front too.

Personally, I think the entire business model of on-line advertising is going to change. How many of you pause to look at the ads all over web sites and social media? I don't. Over the past few years there was an explosion of paid advertising but that is being spread around too many platforms, decreasing the revenues of each. Advertisers only have so much they are willing to spend, and spend it where they think they will get customers. Twitter is not top of list for some large companies at this point. Not because they are forced or bullied. Its business.
 
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