Tranny dipstick failure!

Discussion in 'Pod Drives' started by JamesT, Apr 11, 2021.

  1. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    This is what I get for always checking my fluids! Any ideas how to unscrew the dipstick without the handle?

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  2. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    Can you just tap it with a punch and hammer out toward the edge to unscrew it or put a groove in it to use a screw driver.... maybe heat up a screw driver
     
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  3. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    I like the heat up a screwdriver idea! I was going to drill some holes in it to get a screwdriver into it.

    I found the part number but all the online sites say it has to be shipped from a secondary warehouse or “ships in 3-5 days from order.” Why can’t I just get it shipped tomorrow to be delivered Tuesday, ya know? SMH.
     
  4. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Reattach the handle with some JB Weld quick or 5 minute epoxy.
     
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  5. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    I thought of that but don’t want to risk the epoxy seeping out the sides and bonding it.
     
  6. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    Out some penetrating oil around the edges of the threads to help loosen it. Krill would be my go-to if you have some.

    My initial though was to drill a hole and use a large diameter e-z out. But I think I like the idea of making a slot in the bottom part and using a very wide blade screw driver better. Either cut a slot with a dremel or multi-tool, or heat the screwdriver enough the melt the plastic.

    Once out I wonder if you could get a small flat piece of metal and insert it in to the slot you cut, and mate it into a matching slot in the top part. Then glue together with some jb weld. The metal would reinforce the halves.
     
  7. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    2000 380 Sundancer
    7.4L Horizon w/V drives
    I was thinking a dremel tool to cut a slot into the top, and use a screwdriver and a mallet to rotate to remove
     
  8. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    Heat from dremel spin may end up melting the plastic and get too goopy. I will first test the hot screwdriver on the head, I could probably drill two holes a centimeter apart and stick tips of needle nose pliers and unscrew.
     
  9. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    Don’t anyone of you guys on this site ask how many ways there are to skin a cat :)
     
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  10. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    Not a bad plan. Kind of like a spanner wrench.

    If you use low speed on the dremel bit it should be OK. Depends on the plastic. There are a lot of types of dremel bit - flat cut off disks, carbide bits, diamond bits. All depends on what you have in your toolbox.

    I would be very cautious about using a mallet at first. You really don't want to break anything else. I would reiterate to try to get some penetrating oil on the threads.
     
  11. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    Ask 10 economists what the future holds, and you'll get 12 answers. Ask 10 boaters how to fix something and you'll get at least 15 suggestions....
     
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  12. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    I checked the oil 10 seconds before the cap ripped off and I always drag the wet stick on the side on the way out so I’m sure the threads are lubed already. So disgusted that this happened at the end of an otherwise great weekend. Better than a mechanical failure of course, but seriously...WTF??!!
     
  13. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
     
  14. JamesT

    JamesT Active Member

    250
    Oct 7, 2013
    Somers Point, NJ
    2011 470 Sundancer
    Cummins 480s w/ Zeus PODs
    Yep no mallets or hammers. One wrong move on the housing and it’s a $10,000 mistake.
     
  15. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    2000 380 Sundancer
    7.4L Horizon w/V drives
    I guess I should of said tap it with a mallet, common sense.... but I will say it now. Tap it with a rubber mallet....
     
  16. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I said use a hammer and a punch... I would have pounded it into next week :)...damn cap.
    You can tap stuff with out destroying anything
     
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  17. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Not knowing how much 'meat' you have to work with I'd be cautious of drilling through...plastic pieces falling into the trans or maybe even the stick itself. I'd try punch and hammer first. Then the slot for screwdriver, the bigger the screwdriver the better.
     
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  18. juggernaut1

    juggernaut1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 19, 2015
    Perth, Western Australia
    Boatless - sold Searay 38 Sundancer
    8.1’s
    2 self tappers close to each opposing edge, then use a screwdriver or similar across the self tappers as a key to rotate.
     
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  19. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    2000 380 Sundancer
    7.4L Horizon w/V drives
    (Praying)
    Maybe pull the other and measure so you have an idea how thick this is, at least better than memory
     
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  20. bbwhitejr

    bbwhitejr Well-Known Member

    Apr 14, 2013
    Lake Lanier GA
    2003 420DA, 6CTAs
    NA
    Heat the tips of a pair of needle nosed pliers and insert while hot. Allow to cool and turn....

    Bennett
     
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