Trailering my new 190 Sport - Should I upgrade tow bar?

Discussion in 'Sport Boats' started by dburne, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Yeah, the waiting game is hardest one!

    Any marina or marine store should have the appropriate locks. I would suggest getting a matching (keyed alike) pair for the both the draw bar and the coupler. The coupler lock will be long, thin rod that goes through that hole in the coupler. It's a very common item so it won't be hard to find. It looks a lot like the securing pin that holds your draw bar in.

    The reason to also have a locking draw bar pin is so someone, while you're out on the water or parked at a restaurant (back on the trailer), can't slide the draw bar out of your truck... Push the boat backwards... And slide your draw bar (still attached to your coupler since it's at least locked there) into their hitch on their truck.
     
  2. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Thanks for the tips Dennis!

    Here she is right after we got the boat home:

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  3. jeffw

    jeffw New Member

    55
    Jul 28, 2012
    St. Michael MN
    2012 190 Sport
    4.3 220hp w/alpha one drive
    Congratulations looks exactly like ours except we have black and white seats. If you haven't done so, make sure to get a spare tire.
     
  4. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Thanks Jeff!
    Yes he has the spare and mount ordered should be in this week. He agreed to throw that in the deal for me.
     
  5. Dave 205

    Dave 205 New Member

    449
    Mar 15, 2011
    Omaha, NE
    2006 205 Sport, Shorelander Trailer. Towed by 2012 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5.0 with factory tow package
    Mercruiser 5.0 220 HP Carb w/ Alpha 1 Drive
    There is a lot of good advice here. As you've noticed, your mid-size truck should work fine, but agree that you'll be more confident with the Class III.

    I pulled my boat very well with a 2002 Durango 4.7 V-8 and factory Class III tow package rated to 5,600 lbs. It was a generally good experience. I don't deal with a lot of extreme hills or conditions. With the near death of any mid-size vehicle with decent tow capacity, I upgraded to an F-150 last year. It's like the boat isn't even back there. For long drives and a few places I've been with extreme hill conditions I'm glad I have the bigger vehicle.
     
  6. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Thanks Dave,

    Yes I am very pleased with how the truck handled pulling the boat - can't get over how nice having surge disc brakes is. I am quite certainly it handled this boat better than the old 1990 180 BR I had...
    I will be having the Class II receiver cut off and a Class III welded on before boating season gets here. I also have to have a 5 pin wire done for the truck, it currently has a 4 pin and I need a 5 pin for this trailer due to the disc brakes.
    I will have these two things done here before long.
     
  7. Newman

    Newman New Member

    370
    Jun 20, 2013
    Ohio
    1986 Seville
    Mercruiser 170
    Man that sure is purdy! I'd ask what the difference in price is on a 5-pin vrs 7-pin connection. Probably not necessary for your needs but it does add some flexibility.
     
  8. Dave 205

    Dave 205 New Member

    449
    Mar 15, 2011
    Omaha, NE
    2006 205 Sport, Shorelander Trailer. Towed by 2012 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5.0 with factory tow package
    Mercruiser 5.0 220 HP Carb w/ Alpha 1 Drive
    I could be wrong, and your trailer may be different. I have drum surge brakes, and they don't need any power from the vehicle. I think discs were optional my year. And, there are adaptors to connect different styles of wires. Just saying this so you are able to explore your lowest cost options. I have no idea what your needs may be.
     
  9. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Well I certainly don't know if I am correct, it is my understanding I need to have a 5 wire installed, as the trailer brakes uses the 5th wire - basically when the reverse lights come on , it tells the brake mechanism to pretty much not come on - otherwise the surge brakes would activate when I began backing the trailer up...

    I was able to bypass it when I got home, they showed me which pin to plug into the appropriate pin on the plug, to bypass it so the brake would not deploy when backing it up, but then the rest of the trailer lights would not work.
     
  10. blaster

    blaster Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
    potomac river
    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F150 5.4 xlt 4x4
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    If I remember correctly you plug green into brown but don't hold me to that. There also is a metal tab for lack of a better description which will stop the actuator from engaging the brakes when your in reverse.

    And make sure you get the custom sea ray tie down straps which should have come with your trailer.

    Another thing to watch it to monitor the temperature of the hubs. Every now and then the brakes don't properly release for one reason or another.

    And congratulations again on your beautiful new boat.
     
  11. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One

    Thanks Blaster!
    Yes that sounds about right.
    Metal tab ?? Not familiar with that, on the trailer you mean? Would be nice if there is. Of course, had I actually gotten an owners guide and/or manual for my trailer, guess I could look it up! I have asked for that as well...

    I have already emailed the dealer on those custom Sea Ray tie downs, his response was he would look into it... I am going to keep insisting. I plan on taking the boat back to him when he has everything I have asked for to get it put on, the mounted spare tire, mount the rear trailer light appropriately, and pick up my tie downs.
    Thanks for the tip on the hubs!
     
  12. blaster

    blaster Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
    potomac river
    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F150 5.4 xlt 4x4
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    OK here's the page from the manual. Its officially called the brake lockout bracket. IMG_20140219_201104_891.jpg

    It looks like this. Make sure they attach it to the actuator along with the hitch pin so you always have it. That way when the brake lockout solenoid blows you can still back up.
     
  13. blaster

    blaster Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
    potomac river
    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F150 5.4 xlt 4x4
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    IMG_20140219_200847_322.jpg

    My brake lockout bracket looks like this.
     
  14. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Thanks for taking the time to scan and post that blaster!

    I honestly do not know if I have any of that, will have to go look at my trailer tongue tomorrow in the daylight to see I guess. The only thing they showed me was was how to bypass it with the pin on the wire connector for the trailer...

    Thanks again, I will check that out.
     
  15. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Hey guys,

    Below are couple of pics of what I have:





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    Last edited: Feb 20, 2014
  16. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    And the other ( tried to edit and add above, could not get that to work)

    [​IMG]
     
  17. mbw

    mbw New Member

    81
    Sep 15, 2013
    Dubuque, Iowa
    2005 240 Select
    350 mag w/ bravo 3
    This thread has been interesting. I thought I would share a VERY strange hitch setup that Land Rover uses. This is on my 2013 Land Rover Discovery 4.

    ~8000 pound tow limit and it uses a detachable hitch setup that you just push up and it clicks into place and locks with a little key. cute eh?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  18. dutchman

    dutchman Member

    166
    Aug 26, 2009
    Alberta
    2016 GTS185
    Merc 4.5L MPI 200
    dburne.........by now you might have all this figured out. See the shiny big pin in the black portion of the hitch, along with the slot? That's the part that slides back/forth, making the brake surge on/off. The little steel lock out bracket that Blaster posted, fits into that little slot right behind the pin. That is the mechanical way of shutting off the trailer brake (in case there's no power).
    All those little pieces should come with the trailer.
    Even on my little 175, the trailer came with surge disc brakes, and I too had a learning curve.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2014
  19. dburne

    dburne New Member

    590
    Jun 8, 2012
    Nashville TN
    2013 Sea Ray 190 Sport
    4.3 MPI Mercruiser Alpha One
    Thanks Dutchman, yes I figured out throughout this thread that was what that was.
    I did not however get a lock out bracket with mine, I was wondering what one would do should he need to back up with no electrical connection for whatever reason. I will be taking it back to the dealer maybe on Sat, to get my spare tire mounted he got it for me, and will ask about this lock out bracket. He is supposed to have a manual for the trailer for me as well, as I did not get one.

    I did get a 5 pin wire harness installed in the truck last Saturday, so now at least it will all work properly. So I guess when the reverse lights come on they tell the brakes not to engage - I don't have to have the lights on all the time right?

    So really the only thing left for me to do, is the original topic of this thread - upgrading the towbar from a class II to a Class III.
    Part of me still wants to find a good welder to cut off the Class II receiver and weld on a Class III receiver ( I understand everything else about that hitch that mounts to the truck frame is identical, only the receiver is different), or bite the bullet and order the factory class III hitch from Ford and have them install it ( 1300 bucks ouch!)...



    Thanks,
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2014
  20. jxg

    jxg Member

    67
    Sep 24, 2013
    Rhode Island
    Just Beginning the Searay Search
    Indmar Monsoon II 325 HP, Yamaha F115, Seadoo 155hp
    you are correct. once you have the 5 wire connector, you don't have to have the lights on. when they showed you the trick of reversing the connector and turning the lights on. that activated the brake diabling by using the 12v coming from the vehicle lights.
     

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