To post or not to post...that is the question

First Born

First Born

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Oct 3, 2006
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Charlotte, N.C.
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2006 185 Sport
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4.3 L 190 HP
I want to start off with this is just the opinion of Wesley and not that of CSR. I am taking my moderator hat off for a second just to give my personal opinion to give some reflection of some recent postings on CSR. These opinions are not necessary the opinion of CSR or any of the other moderators.

The thing that made SRO special and now CSR is that the board was a group of knowledgeable Sea Ray owners who had experienced alot of the issues that another Sea Ray owner would go through and had members that could help with most problems that arise out of boat ownership as well as it was a place to build a close bond with other Sea Ray members from around the world.

You will notice that we have alot of smart boat owners on this board that could probably give an educated quess on each and every posting that comes up. Instead they don't; they wait until they see a posting that they truely feel they know the answer to; due to they have experienced it themselves or have seen great results from using a certain method. The site is not a chat room yet a message board. This is not to say every posting is guaranteed to be correct but the poster should know that the solution that they provide has worked for them and has a good chance of working for the person posting the question. This is what is meant when you hear people say it is quality not quantity of post that matters

The members do not answer questions that they have no experience to answer. An example of this is I drive a 185 sport and really have no experience or reason to be answering a question on how to dock a 340 dancer. Now if a new boat owner came in with a 210 Select and asked a question on what is the best technique for docking that is one where I would share my experience with docking my 185.

Why is this important. There are a couple of reasons, it makes the board more of a resource because you can go through the search feature when you have an issue and find quick good solutions instead of having to read through four pages of a post with only two good postings. Second someone may not know that the person who is answering the posting has only been boating for a year and does not really have any experience with what they are answering and the board ends up doing more damage than good.

The other great thing about the board is there are no boat bashing, people bashing allowed. Of course we may have people that disagree on certain topics but the moderators (remember I have my moderator hat off right now) and members do a great job of montoring the situations to make sure they do not get out of hand. Here is where my opinion may disagree with others. I think it is great that people without Sea Rays would want to join this board. There are alot of great smart people on this board and if I had another boat or decided to go to another manufacture for my second boat would choose this board over alot of the other boards out there. My only suggestion would be if you are a member with a different make of boat that you put that in your signature so that when you are answering a question about a Sea Ray, the member that posted the question realize this is coming from boats in general and not true experience with a Sea Ray.

Again these are just my opinions and I wanted to lay this out there. These opinions are not directed at anyone person but as we have so many new members joining I thought it would be good to give a reflection of what we had and what I would like to see us continue to have.

Wesley
 
Well said Wesley.... :thumbsup: :smt038 .Quality not quantity !! :thumbsup: Glad you guys are around to keep us in check!!!!!!
 
I agree with most of that Wesley, but here is where we differ. This board is not just a boating resource, it is a place to exchange ideas and opinions concerning our common interest of boating and specifically Searay boats. There is no prerequisite amount of experience needed to post an idea or point of view. We all have different levels of expertise with something unique to share, and a members posts should not be supressed for fear of being unworthy or lacking in expertise based on someone elses criteria. Certainly some of our senior members have a wealth of information to share and I have learned much from them, but I know firsthand that length of boat or length of years boating does not necessarily translate to expertise. Members that own 175 Sports are as valuable to this board as those with 50ft Dancers, and they should not be made to feel otherwise.
Just my opinion.

Joe
 
In total agreement with Wesley;

I spent nearly a year lurking on SRO soaking up as much info as I could prior to actively participating in discussions where I though I could contribute. CSR is slowly becoming an addiction as much as SRO used to be. I look forward to good dialogue on meaningful topics.....
 
With all said, I tip my proverbial hat to all the Fine Moderators of this fine site!

Mike
 
Ok, now i'm paranoid to post. I know I stray off topic now and then. :huh: Sometimes my posts are retarded. :smt024

I do try to help where and when I can though. I'll try and help more, with less retarding. :thumbsup:
 
In my reading of Wesley's post he offers a good description of what we all see in the board, plus just 1 pet peeve - non-owner identification. OK. Seems like a little too much aggreeing about that.

The various skill levels about, not boats, but message boards is obvious too. Although we're all here because of the boats. But there are some things that could help.
1. There is more missing info from Searay owners than the non-owners Wesley writes about. Let's make the effort to put a little description about ourselves - Boat, Location, maybe even something in the virtual marina.
2. When initiating a post, take the time to make a title. We don't need any more threads about "HELP". Nobody reads them all - well, maybe.... The Search feature works better with more data.
3. Also when initiating a post, write some detail.
4. When providing a response, write enough to share your thoughts with everyone, rather than a 4 word answer with no justification.
5. Explore some of the other sections. There is some interesting stuff out there.

Enjoy.
 
Wesley, good points all. My only thought, and you have epxressed it well already, is that we are at our best when we comment on those things for which we have direct experience.

This does not mean that we ought not post about items that we do not have direct experience, but if we post second hand or speculative thoughts we ought to preface the post accordingly.....for example, a while back we had a thread on 340DAs with 6.2s. I only have about two hours total at the helm of that boat with 8.1s, so before I wrote that I think the 340 would be underpowered with 6.2s I qualified the post by citing my very limited experience.

I think this helps out folks who come here looking for advice on really significant purchases...if we separate first hand experience from educated guesses we help our boating peers become more knowledgeable buyers.

We have a great board here. I own my 420 because of FrankW, Frank H, FCIII, and some of the other smart guys at SRO. We just need to keep the quality up. And I very mich appreciate the fact that we do not bash each other, or other brands. I belive it was the total lack of decorum on some posts that eventually killed SRO. Shame on us if we let that happen here.

regards
Skip
 
I agree that we have a great board here, and that we need to do whatever it takes to keep the quality up.
I applaud Wesley for addressing his concerns, and salute his professionalism and restraint.

While nobody should fear reprisals for posting, it should be realized that this is not a chat room, as previously stated, and the most important thing that makes this site "head and shoulders" above all else is the fact that very busy, and far more learned people than ourseves can share their wealth of knowledge without tedium.

That is an invaluable resourse, that must be treasured and protected.
 
Makes me wonder what Wesley really thinks about me and my posts :huh:

For anyone if you ever feel I'm out of line or being stupid or whatever TELL ME my dad and mom lectured me plenty of times I can take it.
 
jg300da said:
Members that own 175 Sports are as valuable to this board as those with 50ft Dancers, and they should not be made to feel otherwise.
Joe
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Joe - I think we actually agree on everything that you said, especially since I have a 185 and have only been boating since Feb of last year. I would surely hope that I would not disagree with that point. The major point that seperates what you said and what I said is I know what I know and do not post responses to others, trying to help them with issues when I really have no idea what I am talking about.

Here is another example. If someone post a question about diesel engines and how they work, I have only been on one boat that had them (Thanks Frank) and I really have no knowlege of anything about them. I could guess but any answer that I give would be a guess. If that guy that posted the question reads my post and goes and tries what I suggest than more than likely it will not help and may have been a waste. Instead of waiting for someone that does know the answer or has experienced the same thing that he has asked and then can give him the correct answer.

I think we both agree that everyone is here to learn together and the thing that I am suggesting is you should not post just to post. Especially if you have no experience with the question and are just quessing on your answer.

Hope that clears it up.

Wesley
 
cr0ck1 said:
Escapade said:
With all said, I tip my proverbial hat to all the Fine Moderators of this fine site!

Mike
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i second that.. i never had to be moderated but from the looks and control of the forum the mods do a good job! :thumbsup:
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Thanks to all for the support that you gave, sometimes we moderate softly...but remember I do not have my moderator hat on, on this one, this is just me giving my personal impression.

Wesley
 
TurtleTone said:
Ok, now i'm paranoid to post. I know I stray off topic now and then. :huh: Sometimes my posts are retarded. :smt024

I do try to help where and when I can though. I'll try and help more, with less retarding. :thumbsup:
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TT - it is ok to be retarded :smt043

You posted I do try to help where and when I can though - That is the point, if you have something to help with the situation it is good to do so. Do not be paranoid about making a posting and we all stray off topic now and then but we try and keep it to boating. :thumbsup:
 
Cap10Pat said:
In my reading of Wesley's post he offers a good description of what we all see in the board, plus just 1 pet peeve - non-owner identification. OK. Seems like a little too much aggreeing about that.

The various skill levels about, not boats, but message boards is obvious too. Although we're all here because of the boats. But there are some things that could help.
1. There is more missing info from Searay owners than the non-owners Wesley writes about. Let's make the effort to put a little description about ourselves - Boat, Location, maybe even something in the virtual marina.
2. When initiating a post, take the time to make a title. We don't need any more threads about "HELP". Nobody reads them all - well, maybe.... The Search feature works better with more data.
3. Also when initiating a post, write some detail.
4. When providing a response, write enough to share your thoughts with everyone, rather than a 4 word answer with no justification.
5. Explore some of the other sections. There is some interesting stuff out there.

Enjoy.
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1 - Agree, but I have made another posting about this and have been really trying to get each boater including the Sea Ray owners to post this information in their signature. Not really sure why some people refuse to do this. :smt017
2 - Agree
3 - Agree
4 - Agree
5 - Agree

I think you and I agree on all points :thumbsup:
 
First Born said:
1 - Agree, but I have made another posting about this and have been really trying to get each boater including the Sea Ray owners to post this information in their signature. Not really sure why some people refuse to do this. :smt017
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I wonder if it's because maybe they don't really own a sea ray and are ashamed :lol:
 
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