Times are so good…

Discussion in 'The Tiki Bar' started by Presentation, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    I did not know where else to put this but I need to put it somewhere. Warning, its not boating related.

    Where I live the various charity organizations claim we have a homeless problem. Now I drive all thru the city and don’t see any however they claim they are there. They also have decided something must be done.

    So what are we doing? Finding the homeless a home? Nooooooooo. We have created an area to simulate the living conditions of the homeless person and are taking people with homes there.

    Anyone else hear about this?

    Then they ask for money since, per ‘project hope’ there are 38,000 people that live just above the poverty line in the Fox Cities.

    And how do they define “just above the poverty line?†Thank for asking by the way ;) They define it as making under $50,000 / year.

    Participants will do activities. This “Exercise includes role playing to see how families on a fixed income make decisions on buying groceries vs. children’s medicine.†Want to make it accurate? Change the roll play to deciding on spending the money on cigarettes or video games.

    Those that know me well know the philanthropy my wife and I support. Part of the responsibility of having the power to help others is the responsibility to help others in a way that does the most good.

    Kinda makes you wonder what they plan to do about the prostitution problem, hey?
  2. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    ...a few months back a local church organization near where I live had high school kids spend the night in cardboard boxes to get a feel for the "homeless"the media gave it front page coverage..
    ....I have spent 15 yrs as a public safety official ( out on the streets) and deal with the "homeless" frequently. I can truly say 90% are products of their own choices in life....ok speech over....going to Cleveland boat show in the morning !
  3. mark buckwalter

    mark buckwalter New Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Sassafras River
    I learned that first hand one afternoon a few years back. We had a "homeless" man that stood by the road, leading into one of the larger shopping centers, with a homeless sign written on an old piece of cardboard. As the traffic would stop to enter the shopping center he would go car to car asking for donations. One day as he strolled up to my window with his sign I said I could do one better than spare change. I offered the man a job on the spot for $9 an hour. This "homeless" man laughed at me and said "I can make more than that standing here."

    That REALLY made my day :smt021
  4. RonF

    RonF New Member

    Oct 4, 2006
    N. Palm Beach, FL
    310 Sundancer 1999
    Mercruiser Mag 350 MPI, V-drives
    Here in Palm Beach County they are all over the place. They even work in shifts. A guy will ride up on a bike, take over, and the other guy ride away. It's like an organized business.
  5. SearayPaul

    SearayPaul Member

    Oct 11, 2006
    Simpsonville, South Carolina
    34 Downeaster
    Cummins 5.9 480hp
    Several years ago a local radio personality did a report on the homeless pan handling on the streets of Greenville. The reporter took on the roll of a homeless person and "worked" the corner of a busy intersection. He made enough money every day for an entire month to have a hotel room, eat out, and pay for his personal living expenses. I forget what the annulized amount was but it was not trivial. On days the weather was too cold or too wet he did not report for "work" and still could afford to pay for his motel etc. That report really opened up my eyes and I quickly changed my donation habits.

    In addition he met several other homeless people that had a high tech campsite in the woods that they called home. It had all of the latest camping conviences and was camafloged from the rest of the area. The camping site was just a short commute to "work" every day. I am sure they were laughing at all the fools donating to them.

    Best of all none of these people payed taxes or FICA but they had access to healthcare at the local hospital at no charge since they were indigent. Quint4 thanks for all of your help on the streets dealing with the homeless etc.

    Now back to boating...
  6. AndersonAcres

    AndersonAcres Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Wait. I'm confused.

    If $50K is just above the poverty line, and if, as I've read elsewhere, being rich is defined by many in D.C. as earning over $75K a year, then the middle class is a very narrow income band indeed.

    No wonder 'the middle class is shrinking'. It's being defined out of existence.

    Must be the new math. :smt100
  7. Aquia185

    Aquia185 New Member

    Nov 5, 2006
    Stafford, VA
    Who the heck would ever say 75K a year is rich? Oh wait...bet it was the 16 year old working at McDonalds :smt043
  8. mark buckwalter

    mark buckwalter New Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Sassafras River
    WOW....75k is rich? Gee....being rich sure don't feel like I thought it would. :smt017
  9. Dancin Dave

    Dancin Dave Active Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    Rowayton, Ct
    580 SSS 1997
    CAT 3408 800 hp
    maybe its 50 k combined household income and 75 k per individual in the D.C. area, combine a husband wife in D.C. scenario and you have rich(by there definition) Frankly it aint rich, its middle class.

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