The un-redacted version of the Texas chirch shooting

[Woody]

You can see the 00 buck after it goes through the first guy, good thing there was no one behind him.

I feel bad for all those involved of course but especially the kids. There is a little girl near the bad guy. She's standing/kneeling backwards on her pew, she appears to be watching him as the shooting starts.

 

[ttmott]

It's interesting how something like this thread can trigger a memory of a similar situation.

Back in the early 80's I was a cop. Washington Public Power Supply System (WPPSS) was going to hold a public announcement to all of the WPPSS employees that they were shutting down production on one of the reactors. This resulted in the layoff of thousands of union workers of various trades. The big wigs from WPPSS were going to be speaking from atop a several story building and the workers were to be gathered out in front of the building in a parking lot.

One of those workers was a guy well known to cops named Jimmy. Jimmy was a biker, known to carry a handgun/knife/club or whatever fancied him that day.

We were pretty sure Jimmy would be in the crowd as he worked at the nuke plant, and we knew he was nuts enough to try to take a shot at the big wigs. It was my job to be Jimmy's shadow. I was in jeans and a work shirt and I was to make sure I was never more than 3' from Jimmy and my instructions were that if pulled out a handgun I was to take him out before he got a chance to shoot it.

I spent about an hour in the crowd waiting for Jimmy to show up. He finally did, and he never realized I was next to him.

The big wigs gave out the bad news, there was a lot of bitchin' and moanin' in the crowd, but Jimmy never made a move. Thankfully.

I was there; one of the engineering managers for the mechanical contractor at Unit 2. We were working to get through the issues the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (due to Federal changes and public pressure) were dropping on the industry and essentially what caused WPPSS to terminate the units on the West coast and the two PWR's at Hanford. They simply couldn't float the bonds to complete four of the five plants; additionally, the economics for a power supplier on the national grid were changing. There were close to 8000 represented craft working on the units in the Tri-Cities. We had daily closed door meetings with the customer's senior management and with the craft representatives to work through what was about to be announced; for all intensive purposes the demobilization was handled well by all. We moved many of the key craft to Unit 2 as we knew it had to be accelerated when the NRC issues were resolved. It was difficult and intense times..... The unions did a great job overall in keeping the craft informed with facts as well as helping work through those difficult times.
I think those times and your personal experience cannot be compared to the issues we are dealing with today. We have public officials (House of Representatives members for heaven sakes) promoting public violence down to the fracturing of the family unit; the very basic tenants of a functioning society broken.....

 

[Gofirstclass]

I agree that the situation I was in was vastly different from what the security detail in the church faced. It was a tough time for all concerned. A year after that meeting happened the joke was:

Q. "What are the two things you can't get rid of?"
A. "Herpes and a house in Richland.

Unemployed people were leaving town like crazy, walking away from homes, leaving toys (RV's, boats, etc.) behind, just giving them back to the banks. U-Haul was paying people to ride to Seattle and other distance cities to drive a truck back to the Tri Cities because there were none to be had to rent anywhere around here.

 

[PartnerShip]

Six seconds.

Bad Guy stands up and says something to the first of the Security guys. Next he pulls out his shotgun. Security #2 does a slow draw and the bad guy kills him. Then the Bad Guy shoots Security #1 at point blank range.

Security guy #3 drops the bad guy with a single head shot from what appears to be 40' away. Not the kind of news that today's liberal media likes to report since #3 is just a citizen exercising his 2nd Amendment rights......and protecting everyone else inside the church.

A terrible loss for two families.

No...A terrible loss for THREE families.

 

[JimG]

No...A terrible loss for THREE families.

Evidently the perp had been lost for some time... could have been a relief for some.