The Stars seem to be aligning in '21

Carpediem44DB

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2000 Carver 506
2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge
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Volvo TAMD 74 P
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We sold the 44 in October and all summer long there were several replacement boats on the market. I figured finding one would not take too long but as soon as I'm ready to buy, the market dries up! We are looking to go with a 50 plus Carver >2000 due to the living space and certain cabin features that we really like. Since my slip is empty I offered a fellow Club member the spot to enjoy until we find our boat. His boat is a 2000 506 in great shape but is an aft cabin boat which is down a peg or two on our list. Just for grins I took the wife to the marina to show her the boat to see what she thought about seeing one in person. She Poo-Pooed the ones I showed her on YW. Long story short, she fell in love and it turns out that the owner wants to sell! No broker, its in an LLC, owner is interested in carrying the note and its already sitting in my slip! Please tell me what am I missing?
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We sold the 44 in October and all summer long there were several replacement boats on the market. I figured finding one would not take too long but as soon as I'm ready to buy, the market dries up! We are looking to go with a 50 plus Carver >2000 due to the living space and certain cabin features that we really like. Since my slip is empty I offered a fellow Club member the spot to enjoy until we find our boat. His boat is a 2000 506 in great shape but is an aft cabin boat which is down a peg or two on our list. Just for grins I took the wife to the marina to show her the boat to see what she thought about seeing one in person. She Poo-Pooed the ones I showed her on YW. Long story short, she fell in love and it turns out that the owner wants to sell! No broker, its in an LLC, owner is interested in carrying the note and its already sitting in my slip! Please tell me what am I missing?
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We looked for a year before we found the Sabre. And then it was a boat the broker conned us into looking at on the way to see another candidate (it was a poor second). The word you are looking for is Serendipity.

Two things, the first is just me, the other a bit of voice of experience. As I read your post my inner skeptic started whispering, "if the story is too good to be true...". That's just me, and may be you as well since you posted asking for advice. That said, I don't know the know the specifics and I may be, as many have speculated about me in the past, full of $hit on this.

The other point is that this sounds like a possible sale between friends. That alone is its own minefield. Having bought a boat from a friend, my experience is that even when it all goes well there is a risk of future strife/hurt feelings. My advice, just handle the process professionally with no cut corners; do the survey, look at the service records, talk to the service vendors, etc., just like you would do with a stranger. The more unbiased third parties involved the better.

As for the rest, you're already 98% there if the wife loves the boat.
 
We looked for a year before we found the Sabre. And then it was a boat the broker conned us into looking at on the way to see another candidate (it was a poor second). The word you are looking for is Serendipity.

Two things, the first is just me, the other a bit of voice of experience. As I read your post my inner skeptic started whispering, "if the story is too good to be true...". That's just me, and may be you as well since you posted asking for advice. That said, I don't know the know the specifics and I may be, as many have speculated about me in the past, full of $hit on this.

The other point is that this sounds like a possible sale between friends. That alone is its own minefield. Having bought a boat from a friend, my experience is that even when it all goes well there is a risk of future strife/hurt feelings. My advice, just handle the process professionally with no cut corners; do the survey, look at the service records, talk to the service vendors, etc., just like you would do with a stranger. The more unbiased third parties involved the better.

As for the rest, you're already 98% there if the wife loves the boat.
Its all good, Thanks for the input. We are actually not close friends, he is however, a past Sea Ray 45 DB owner so he is of good character ;) . What ever becomes of the transaction it will be strictly business. The 'too good to be true' concept is giving me pause for sure. The good news is there is no outside pressure on any of us to act quickly, so we have time to make sure its want we both want to do. In this past heated market I'm sure a lot of folks had to make snap decisions to get into a boat that they may eventually regret.
Carpe Diem
 
That thing is a floating condominium!! I’m sure it’s a great boat but I need a little breeze through my hair on these amazing machines ,maybe this and a smaller boat? But then again a bird in hand....
 
That thing is a floating condominium!! I’m sure it’s a great boat but I need a little breeze through my hair on these amazing machines ,maybe this and a smaller boat? But then again a bird in hand....
Believe me, I have contemplated that for a couple of years ever since we almost bought a 564. The lure of never caring for or replacing vinyl windows, canvas and broken zippers are winning the day. The sliding glass roof and tilt open side windows along with the A/C should suffice though plus we still have the Achilles 350 center console dink to zoom around in.
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Believe me, I have contemplated that for a couple of years ever since we almost bought a 564. The lure of never caring for or replacing vinyl windows, canvas and broken zippers are winning the day. The sliding glass roof and tilt open side windows along with the A/C should suffice though plus we still have the Achilles 350 center console dink to zoom around in.
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Having moved to a hard-top with full glass, not having to deal with canvas, zippers, and plastic windows is WONDERFUL.

Having the boat so close is awesome - sometimes it just works out.

I’ll tell you my “things just work” story. I got a Back Cove 34 in spring 2019. By mid summer 2020 we thought we needed some larger / different layout. I happened to meet a local guy that wanted a BC 34, but was not in a hurry to buy. At the end of the summer we were ready to sell and he was ready to buy - deal done. We thought we’d have the winter and spring to find a Back Cove 37. Early October for a call from my broker - a 2019 37 was coming on the market - we could get first dibs before it went public. We hemmed and hawed for a week or so, considering a new build instead. Meanwhile the boat was listed in a Friday. Monday we decided we wanted the used 37. It turns out the dealer was away for the weekend and had not responded to multiple offers. Somehow we still had right of first refusal for the next 45 minutes. We make an offer and got it. We closed last month. The only wrinkle is it’s still in Charleston, and we’re in NY. But that’s another story.
 
For me, the only show stopper is no cockpit for activities on the water like scuba diving, or just hanging out in the water and then hanging in the cockpit. Other than that, looks like a beautiful boat.
 
For me, the only show stopper is no cockpit for activities on the water like scuba diving, or just hanging out in the water and then hanging in the cockpit. Other than that, looks like a beautiful boat.
Yeah, if we were big, 'in the water peeps' we would be sticking with a Voyager or a 564. We however love being on the water and will leave being in the water to others. The biggest compromise is the aft cabin design requiring the 5 step climb to the aft deck for cabin entry.
Carpe Diem
 
Yeah, if we were big, 'in the water peeps' we would be sticking with a Voyager or a 564. We however love being on the water and will leave being in the water to others. The biggest compromise is the aft cabin design requiring the 5 step climb to the aft deck for cabin entry.
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That is my only drawback to Aft cabin boats-teh 5-steps up just to board the boat. With the DB, I had a choice to go up or not.....

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Yep, i have a 390MY and we don't like the steps to board. However i like not having to deal with canvas and the ac at the helm. We have placed a deposit on a 44DB and liked the one level from boarding into the cabin and more water level space on the aft. not sure i am going to like all the canvas but it will be kept in a covered slip.
The other thing i might say is the 390MY is very comfortable spending a few days aboard.
 
Yep, i have a 390MY and we don't like the steps to board. However i like not having to deal with canvas and the ac at the helm. We have placed a deposit on a 44DB and liked the one level from boarding into the cabin and more water level space on the aft. not sure i am going to like all the canvas but it will be kept in a covered slip.
The other thing i might say is the 390MY is very comfortable spending a few days aboard.
Ultimately, it is the spaciousness of the living spaces and bridge along with the lack of canvas and plastic enclosure that made us consider the aft cabin. We have a few more years of being tied to careers that will prevent spending serious time doing coastal cruising, if and when that time comes we can always do another ten foot move up to a boat that will fill that mission.
Carpe Diem
 
I agree 100% on not having canvas. My next boat will definitely have a lot less canvas or hopefully none!
 
Do you need a pen?
LOL, Not yet, This is a unique situation, I am being afforded several days or weeks to do my own pre survey inspection and operational systems checks to understand the boat and mechanicals before we decide to buy. The price that was quoted is so fair that I don't even feel compelled to negotiate it. If I can't talk myself out of it after the due diligence, then I'll be looking for a Pen:)
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We have a 560 in our marina.Owner is nice guy and treasurer of our yacht club .I just couldnt live without a open cockpit for swimming and fishing though.Also too many stairs to fall down.
 
Its all over but the paper work! We have been trying to talk ourselves out of pulling the trigger on the 506 and today we decided to commit to buying it. The current owner has already updated the electronics so the boat is pretty much turn key. I'll have a lot of cleaning and detailing to do in the ER as well as installing some LED lighting to make the boat perfect. Can't wait to get started.
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