The official 2009 270DA ~ 2010 280DA thread

Reading and dreaming of a spring spash! April 2nd is our tenative date.
 
Since the boat has been in rack storage for a few months, I can not remember what pitch the 350mag/b-3 has? I have a spare set of 24p from our old 260da and wonder if they work in case of a hit miles from the dock? If not I need to look for a spare set.

Thanks in advance for the info
 
I've pulled the trigger on the bow thruster since I've come to the conclusion that my money is best served making my boating experience, with my current boat, better. Moving on up to a larger boat, i.e. twins/axius, won't necessarily improve my overall experience, in fact it may be more of a trade off. More money for less (less getting involved; less unique/custom comforts). If I sink all my money to trade up, I won't have any for projects or having fun...

I'm content with my 270/280 and look forward to my "little" projects which is definitely one of my diversions I enjoy. So with that said, here are some details on my spring splash projects...

1) Bow Thruster - scheduled for the end of the month. Hurst's quote for the install (parts and labor) was $9500. Of course, I added some custom parts so the price will be slightly more. Will consist of a Side Power SE40/125 thruster & parts, a InterState Optima SC34M battery (AGM), Blue Sea remote battery switch #7700, and finally a Blue Sea CL-series automatic charging relay #7600. The controls will be mounted at the helm, including some Contura switches for the ACR and battery switch. Here's a wiring diagram I threw together:
bow-thruster-wiring.jpg


2) Tender - On my splash date (whenever that is...) I'll take delivery of my Zodiac 240 Cadet Airlite with a 4 hp merc. I'll be ordering Weaver offset davits (the ones that go out and down) with standoffs. Basically, I've got to be splashed so that I get the dimensions right. Here's a pic...
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3) Autopilot - This one is still being worked on but I've narrowed it down to a RayMarine SPX10 with ST70 control head. The drive will be a Octupus Type R unit part #OCTAFMDRESYSA with a Mercruiser Type B connection kit. I don't have to replace my steering, yay! :smt038 The interesting part of this install is I'll have to setup a SeaTalkng backbone for the control head and a rewiring of the SeaTalk connections for the GPS/fast heading.

4) MercMonitor - This is to install the gateway for engine data from SmartCraft. For this I'll have to install a NMEA2000 backbone (using SeaTalkng cables) and a SeaTalk2 to SeaTalkng adapter cable (but it's NOT a SeaTalkng backbone; but a N2K backbone). More details on this later.

5) Switch panel/new house battery - Given all the 12V systems added, I going to put in a Blue Seas waterproof switch panel to replace/supplement the fuse panel at the helm. This will give me control (and fuse protect) every 12V device. With this, I'll also add a Optima SC31DM (AGM) to replace the current house battery.

Future ideas: cooler tie downs on the swim platform and a central vac.

That's it... After these projects, I'll have one pimped out boat. I may not be the biggest in the marina but I won't be afraid to rub fenders with the big boys...

Cheers,
Kaoru
 
:smt038 I found the right thread!!

Purchased a new (left over) 2010 280 DA at the Dallas TX. boat show back in February and it was "splashed" last Thursday. Like some others in the thread this is our first cruiser and I am sure to have many questions. I have read the "other" 280DA thread but figured out that it did not cover our boat, so glad I stumbled on this one today.
We traded up from a 2010 220 SD so I know this is going to be a big step. We had winds of 40+ mph on Friday when we were going to have our orientation, but I asked if it could be put off till we had better conditions. I am also trying to figure out all the systems and where to put stuff, but that is part of the fun. I know I will have questions, but I hope one day I can contribute as well.
OH... you will need to add another Black hulled one to the list!
Take care... and happy boating!
 
Welcome to the group, Lots of great stuff here that you will not find on the other 280 group.

nativetx58 said:
:smt038 I found the right thread!!

Purchased a new (left over) 2010 280 DA at the Dallas TX. boat show back in February and it was "splashed" last Thursday. Like some others in the thread this is our first cruiser and I am sure to have many questions. I have read the "other" 280DA thread but figured out that it did not cover our boat, so glad I stumbled on this one today.
We traded up from a 2010 220 SD so I know this is going to be a big step. We had winds of 40+ mph on Friday when we were going to have our orientation, but I asked if it could be put off till we had better conditions. I am also trying to figure out all the systems and where to put stuff, but that is part of the fun. I know I will have questions, but I hope one day I can contribute as well.
OH... you will need to add another Black hulled one to the list!
Take care... and happy boating!
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Spot said:
Since the boat has been in rack storage for a few months, I can not remember what pitch the 350mag/b-3 has? I have a spare set of 24p from our old 260da and wonder if they work in case of a hit miles from the dock? If not I need to look for a spare set.

Thanks in advance for the info
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In looking at the Sea Ray documentation, it appears your boat, if a 2009 model, is actually considered a 270DA in the documentation (which of course became the 280DA in 2010, replacement for the last generation 260DA). Considering all this information, it looks like the prop chart calls for a 20 prop for the Bravo 3/350MAG. The 280DA numbers posted for 2009 280DA appear to be for the 2001-2009 280DA (same as mine).

Prop chart is here- http://www.searay.com/boat_graphics/electronic_brochure/Company1729/_25_12212010110524AM.pdf
 
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Thanks for the note Jason, My 24p b-3's may not work.
 
Well, Spring is here and I hope everyone is getting ready for another fun fill season of boating.

(Also wanted to bring our thread back to the first page.) :smt043
 
Hi everyone, new to boating and am planning my sea demo date next week. Anything specific I should look out for? I def. Need to go over all the systems etc, but not sure how in-depth they will or should go. I was at the other 280 forum, got some great advice, but found this now. Add a pewter hull to the list.
 
Now we have all the colors represented, The only challenge that has popped up is the leaking seal on the B-3 which is totally covered and extended coverage. If buying from a dealer, make sure you push them to make sure you have everything you need to legally and safely boat.

You will love the new ride.
 
ReLAXin said:
Hi everyone, new to boating and am planning my sea demo date next week. Anything specific I should look out for? I def. Need to go over all the systems etc, but not sure how in-depth they will or should go. I was at the other 280 forum, got some great advice, but found this now. Add a pewter hull to the list.
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Hi, welcome to the thread! Obviously, you discovered that a 2009 and later 280 Sundancer is not the same hull as a 2009 270 / 2010-11 280 Sundancer. I assume from your post that you've already purchased a >=2010 280 but I'm curious whether it's new or new-to-you? In either case, it should be under warranty (one year Sea Ray, 2 year Mercruiser) which most things are covered. Post the details of your boat (genny, options, etc.) and I'm sure that someone, including myself, can provide you a wealth of information. Every boat has its challenges, some of which have been overcome by the people here.

Cheers,
Kaoru
 
Two weeks 'til splash and the admiral is talking about accessorizing the interior. Anybody have any pics they can share on how you may have personalized your cabin? Thanks (BTW, she requested I post this....)
 
Hello all. The Admiral and I just closed on a new, leftover 2009 270 Sundancer. Black and white. We traded in our 2008 240 Sundeck. We just bought that one last year and it was our first boat. Hopefully, we are ready for this upgrade!

Our main reason for upgrading is, of course, to be able to stay on the boat for trips instead of hotels or B&Bs. The wider beam and extra couple of feet in length should also help us to weather Lake Ontario better.

Not too many options, just the windlass, full canvas, chartplotter, flagpole, hot and cold transom shower. Going to have the dealer put in the grill, a TV, and possibly a bow thruster (waiting on pricing for the thruster).


This is a great thread, learned a lot already.
 
midolo said:
Hello all. The Admiral and I just closed on a new, leftover 2009 270 Sundancer. Black and white. We traded in our 2008 240 Sundeck. We just bought that one last year and it was our first boat. Hopefully, we are ready for this upgrade!
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Congrats and welcome to the 270/280 Sundancer thread! :smt038 Your just like me with my 270 being my second boat after having a 175 Sport for a short period before.
Our main reason for upgrading is, of course, to be able to stay on the boat for trips instead of hotels or B&Bs. The wider beam and extra couple of feet in length should also help us to weather Lake Ontario better.
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Not to say that the cabin in the 270 is roomy, but the cabin is quite comfortable. I'm not a small man but the layout works really well. The Admiral, Squabbie (aka my youngest daughter), and myself have spent more than a week straight on the boat. Best time I've even had...
Not too many options, just the windlass, full canvas, chartplotter, flagpole, hot and cold transom shower. Going to have the dealer put in the grill, a TV, and possibly a bow thruster (waiting on pricing for the thruster).

This is a great thread, learned a lot already.
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Did your 270 include a genny and AC? I haven't seen one that didn't but those two options definitely add a lot in terms of comfort, especially if your anchored. In any case, I've found that the 270/280 is *extremely* versatile and can easily be upgraded. Adding a TV, radar, satellite dish, etc. can be DIY because I did it. I did a lot of research on such installs and it seems that larger the boat the more complicated (and expensive) things get. The 270/280 is the right size without making any installation troublesome. If your interested in any upgrades/mods drop me line.

On my boat I've installed:
  • Radar (Raymarine RD218 dome; works with factory C70): That's plug-n-play. The mount is the most time consuming part.
  • Cockpit TV (my 270 came with a factory TV above the mid-cabin): Picked up a HiSense LCD/DVD combo which is 12V (brick), a compact wall mount, and wired it in on the arch. I also installed a IR repeater which allows me to use the supplied IR remotes anywhere on the boat.
  • Satellite TV: That's a big ticket item but the installation is straight forward. I mention it since I had to run cables to the cabin TV.
  • Internet/Phone: Another easy mod except having to run cables everywhere. This was the install where I learned all the in/outs, access panels, etc. for cabling.
On my to-do list for this summer:
  • Bow Thruster: ~$9500 quote; being installed as I type this. Note that this is a custom install where I've worked with Hurst every step of the way. This price tag includes a new Optima AGM house battery (SC31DM), a SC34M AGM battery for the thruster, a Side Power SE40/125 thruster, ACR (charging relay), and a remote battery switch.
    The included control is:
    Boat_Switch_Panel.jpg

    As a deal, I got the following for free:
    bowwind_remote.jpg

  • MercMonitor: I'm replacing my SmartCraft SC1000 System gauge with a single engine smart tow data level 2 MercMonitor. Here's a pic.
    DSC_0153.jpg

    Why a MercMonitor? First, this allows me to connect the Raymarine C70 via SeaTalk2 to the MercMonitor so that engine/fuel data is accessible from the C70. Second, I'm fed up of not knowing where my trim tabs are positioned. With the install of a Bennett NMEA 2000 Indicator kit (as shown),
    NMEA_200_Indicator_kit.jpg

    I can receive and display the trim tabs position on the MercMontor. No more getting confused where my tabs are and I can forgo any ATC (auto tab control) since I'll just mentally note where my best running attitude is.
  • Obviously, I'm installing a NMEA 2000 backbone (for the MercMonitor) that now opens the door for other modifications. First modification (future) is connecting the Cruisair Qht (AC) controller to the N2K network via a optional CANBUS adapter and Maretron J2K100 module. Second would be a IPG100 module (plus other modules like motion detectors, IP cameras) connecting my boat to the Internet accessible via my iPhone running N2KView from Maretron. In essence, I can check the status/security of my boat from anywhere.
  • Lastly, and if I have the $$, an autopilot which will consist of a Raymarine X-10 course computer, fast heading sensor, a ST70 controller, and a Octopus TYPE-R steering drive with MerCruiser connection kit.

Food for thought....

Cheers,
Kaoru
 
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[/QUOTE] Did your 270 include a genny and AC? I haven't seen one that didn't but those two options definitely add a lot in terms of comfort, especially if your anchored. [/QUOTE]

It did include heat and A/C, but not a generator. The dealer told me that they generally don't order that size boat with a genny, however, nine out of ten used ones I have seen for sale have a generator. We will run with out one for now, and assess if we need one after a few trips. We have a propane grill, so that works whether anchored or docked, so it really is just a matter of the A/C and the microwave.
 
SO... my boat is out of the fiberglass shop and Hurst did a beautiful job on the tunnel. It's all gel coated and colour matched; it looks like it came from the factory mold that way. The thruster, battery, and main components are installed. The only thing remaining is the installation of the controls at the helm. My only regret, they already had the main components installed when I suggested that the new compartment be gel coated (inside like the bilge). Of course, that is only for aesthetics and would have cost me some more money anyway. I will be talking to them about the compartment hatch, to install concealed hinges (Southco R6 concealed hinge - hold open style) and whether or not I'll keep the carpet or go wood flooring. If I stay with the carpet, I have a few ideas on edging so that the carpet edges don't fray.

More later and maybe some pics...
Kaoru
 
Good Morning,
I had seen Kaoru's posts on a different thread - but am so glad I finally found this one.
We signed and started payments this past fall on a 2009 270 DA leftover, but will finally consummate the relationship this Friday. The Captain will be taking us out for instructions and then the keys are ours.

Spot, you can add another blue one to the mix - it matches the Patriot Blue Ram 3500 Tow vehicle.:lol:

First option we added a windlass since around here (with all the deeper shipping channels) hauling up any anchor from 60+' was ridiculous. Next up is going to be a chartplotter - but at least we know our local cruising grounds anyway.
Next requirement will be the trailer. She's large to tow, but filling up at the pump is going to be much nicer than the marina this year I'm starting to think.....:grin:

Best wishes to all, wishing everyone a great season, and I've enjoyed reading your posts. If you think of anything I need to look for when closing this week - please let me know (PM, or whatever).
 
Got a favor to ask of the group:
Does anyone have their boat handy that could tell me the vertical dimension between the sole of the swim platform and the joint line where the sunpad folds out? This would be the center area (port of the 270).
We haven't taken delivery yet, but think that would be a great place to stick the name. Would 8" tall letters fit? 10"?
Thanks!
-Dennis
 
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