Suggestions on Bowrider Bow Drop?

Discussion in 'Sport Boats' started by Daniel1980, Sep 7, 2021.

  1. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    "no boat insurance" Seriously?
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2021
  2. highslice

    highslice Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Mar 28, 2008
    Table Rock Lake, Hollister Missouri
    270 SLX
    2013 Sea Doo 155 Wake
    496 Mag
    Bravo III
    Corsa
    What?
     
  3. El Capitan

    El Capitan Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2014
    Chicago IL./Vero Beach, Fl
    1970 SRV 180 w 2.5L Mercruiser.
    2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
    120HP Mercruiser
  4. highslice

    highslice Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Mar 28, 2008
    Table Rock Lake, Hollister Missouri
    270 SLX
    2013 Sea Doo 155 Wake
    496 Mag
    Bravo III
    Corsa
    That article is geared towards boats with a forward cabin and people riding on the top of the gunwales. My boat is a purpose built bow rider. It has deep seats and grab handles in the bow, the seats are as deep as any of the seats in the cockpit. If someone got thrown from the bow of my boat, everyone on the boat will be getting tossed in the water because it would mean the boat capsized. My 240 was built in the same fashion. There is nothing dangerous about it unless I were to allow someone to sit on top of the gunwale on my boat, which is never going to happen. I have driven past water patrol hundreds of times with people in the bow and never even got a second look. I can't speak to an 18' boat though.
     
  5. El Capitan

    El Capitan Well-Known Member

    Jul 9, 2014
    Chicago IL./Vero Beach, Fl
    1970 SRV 180 w 2.5L Mercruiser.
    2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
    120HP Mercruiser
    You didn’t read the entire article.

    Re bowriders:
    “…Most of the people discussing the topic get hung up on the legality of specific circumstances, the "letter of the law" if you will. I think they're missing the point. The point should be safety, not just legality. The danger lies in the fact that you can be doing everything correctly, within the letter of the law, and still be putting you passengers and crew in danger.”
     
  6. highslice

    highslice Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Mar 28, 2008
    Table Rock Lake, Hollister Missouri
    270 SLX
    2013 Sea Doo 155 Wake
    496 Mag
    Bravo III
    Corsa
    I did read the whole article, including that passage. I just don't agree with his conclusion. It does not apply to the 2 bowriders I have owned, especially my 270. Sitting in the bow under way is perfectly safe on my boat. In 14 years not one passenger riding in the bow has bounced 1" much less the 2 1/2 feet it would take for them to even come close to exiting the boat. That was always our first consideration when looking for the boats we have owned. So while it may be dangerous to ride in the bow of SOME bowriders while under way, that does not apply to ALL bowriders. There's a reason I don't own a bayliner or rinker.
     
  7. Tommo

    Tommo New Member

    3
    Sep 6, 2021
    Buffalo NY
    1998 Sea Ray 185 Bowrider
    4.3L Mercruiser 190HP w/ Alpha One Gen II Drive
    Do you have trim tabs installed on this boat, by chance? I'm researching if I want to add them to my 185BR, and your post just alerted me to the fact they may cause additional bow dip on hard deceleration since they would engage at this point, too (especially if they were "smart" tabs... which I would guess are more likely to be the type installed on this size boat).
     
  8. ColoSR

    ColoSR Active Member

    370
    Apr 25, 2018
    2003 Sea Ray Sundeck 220
    MX 6.2L MPI Mercruiser with 2.2 Bravo III drive
    A bigger bow rider would help out a lot. Mine is a 220SD, it’s a nice trailerable size but visibly way bigger than a 180 with much higher gunwales. A 240+ would probably be better on the Chesapeake, but you start having to look at a bigger tow vehicle.

    Personally we use the boat with friends, and rarely have less than 10 on board, so the center channels don’t really make sense. Besides, nobody wants to go out in weather/water where we would need a self bailing design.
     
  9. Arminius

    Arminius Active Member

    629
    Oct 30, 2019
    Seattle
    Bowrider 200 Select, 2003
    5.0L MPI, 260 hp w/Alpha 1 Drive
    A larger back-up automatic bilge pump is a fairly easy installation and they do clog up.
     
  10. GypsmJim

    GypsmJim Active Member

    588
    Aug 8, 2018
    Western New York
    '19 SPX 190 OB, 150 & 5 Mercs
    '17 Whaler 150 Montauk
    '15 Yamaha FXHO
    '60 Mulray Dinghy
    '52 Lyman 15'
    Mercury 150 4-stroke
    68 Outboards representing 11 manufacturers
    If your bow nose dives you have too much weight in the bow.

    If your bilge is full and water is an issue, then you must have water on the floor when you stop.

    I have run bowriders for 37 years now. Only ONE single time did I ever nosedive. It was because a log came in view and I stopped too quick.

    Knowing your boat and proper driving is paramount.
     

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