Squirrelly 260DA test ride…and potential setback

Nehalennia II

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Oct 6, 2006
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Marysville, WA
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sold '99 230OV
Engines
5.7 EFI w/Alpha one
Yesterday, the Admiral needed the “day off†and the owner of the 260DA we’re looking at offered a test ride. He lives on Washington’s Olympic peninsula and I live 45 minutes from the ferry to get us over there. The first trip we went over on a Saturday, with the vehicle, Admiral and twins. This trip we walked onto the ferry and he picked me and the twins up and brought us back to his marina. Luckily I did because the Olympic peninsula is a popular getaway spot for vacation homes, RV and camping and the return line for the Ferry would have been 3+ hours.

He lives in a great little key community that is surrounded homes with private docks and a marina for those in the community which are not “on the waterâ€. He has the boat at the marina. Once we got to his marina, we hopped aboard, started her up and he asked if I wanted to pull her out of the slip and head towards the opening in a small cut which leads us into Hood canal on Puget sound. We were fine for depth but he knows the channel well so he escorted her out into open water.
Once we were in the clear, I retook the helm made sure the twins were sitting tight, and throttled up. Trying to gauge the trim and trim tabs, leaving the tabs “up†and the Trim down I recalled comments here how to get to plane and adjust for the radical tilting.

“Dave S†said:
First the basics..........When coming on plane do not use your tabs under any circumstances...........have them totally retracted regardless of the load in your boat. If the tabs are down at all the boat will want to veer left or right and that isn't what you want. The next thing you want to pay attention to as you come on plane is your outdrive trim. Start with the outdrive fully down but as the boat comes on plane, begin to tilt the outdrive up. Mine tends to start a list or turn to port as it's coming on plane but the more I tilt the outdrive the more it will cancel that tendency and the more the boat will track straight and level. Once on plane and with the outdrive trimmed properly, then use the tabs as needed to balance the boat side to side.

If you want to cruise at less then planing speeds, bring the boat up to the speed you want, leave your outdrive tucked all the way down and slowly tap the tabs buttons to plant the nose alternating between the left and right side. Be aware though if you change speeds first retract the tabs or the boat will again start to veer or lean to one side or the other.

Well I think I didn’t tap the tabs I pressed for a second throwing the boat into a port side list which I thought was pretty extreme. I didn’t think I would be able to “Adjust†my way out of this and slowed to “reset†and try again. Ok this time less severity but still had it list this time to starboard. I was able this time to adjust, level off and cruise straight for a little bit monitoring at what speeds the RPMs were and how the boat would “cruise†at. It was a perfectly calm day so it was nice to be able to really see how she rode without interference of waves or chop.

Well a ¼ mile into this straight and true cruise the helms wheel turn right really hard and I could not turn it back the left. I looked back fearing I hit something. I didn’t see anything and knew I was watching where I was going. Anyway we came off plane, he retook the helm. I said it feels like the power steering. He visibly got nervous, like he lost the sale. We stopped raised the outdrive to check for any viible damage or indication.Nothing. I asked if we could open the engine compartment and check the fluid level in the power steering. He thought that we wouldn’t be able to visibly see anything, so we just idled back to port. Well when we got to the mouth of the marina I again asked him to raise the engine hatch. My guess was correct, there was steering fluid on the bottom of the bilge and them the power steering pump started screaming like a cat in a fan belt. I was at first thinking that the pump had seized but it hadn’t but it was smoking from lack of fluid. As we got closer to the slip I noticed more fluid on the starboard side engine compartment bulkhead and thought something else may have gone.
Stopped at the slip I got my whole self in the engine compartment looking for the source of the fluid on the bulkhead. Vwalla- a hydraulic fitting on the steering ram had failed and it essentially spewed the lovely pink juice everywhere on the starboard bulkhead. No Juice, cooked the pump.
Anyway, you could tell he was rattled, and said “you better go find another boatâ€. I said, well this isn’t a deal breaker; if you can look into having it repaired, everything else ran like a top(I’ll definitely have to get used to the tabs) I’d be happy to know that the steering ram has been tested or replaced, new pump and hoses installed and we’re good to go. I really believe it was a defective fitting, unless a faulty ram created too much pressure for it to handle.
Either way we’ll see where things go from here.
 
Sorry to hear of the set back Todd. But yanno.... that sort of thing happens to me AFTER I've sent the check in. I'm glad for you that it was spotted now. good luck!
 
Sorry to hear about the trouble Todd. Mastering the tabs does take a bit of getting used to as well. Certainly the 260DA is a totally different feel than your 230OV.

It's possible that the power steering problem may be covered under the powertrain warranty which may still be in affect from Mercruiser. You might want to discuss that with the owner. Even if it's not covered by warranty, I think it would be worthwhile for his dealer to call Mercury and see if maybe they would cover it anyhow.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Funny you should post this right now, Todd. I had an opportunity this weekend to do a bunch of practicing with trim tabs and drive position, using the lessons you quoted from Dave S. and more. He's absolutely right, it takes a little getting used to, but it can be done. I was able to get her running straight and true on plane with a variety of different seating positions of my crew. Yes, their moving around does change things A LOT! I still haven't mastered dealing with a breeze on the bow quarter, as it feels like I have to steer into the wind to keep a constant heading, and that induced a list, but I'll keep practicing............

Best of luck with the PS repair. Make sure the raw water pump has been serviced, too. That's what failed on my "test drive"........

Cheers,

Bill
 
UPDATE:
The owner did call and say he does have a warranty and that it's until 2010, transferable for $50(nice to hear) and that he is going to have the repair done and the dealer that I would have any future work done :thumbsup:
 
Good to hear you will have the warranty :thumbsup: .

When will you be able to retest the boat and take delivery?
 
Dave S said:
Good to hear you will have the warranty :thumbsup: .
indeed.

Dave S said:
When will you be able to retest the boat and take delivery?
He's checking the dealer's Schedule today. I know the service manager for the last 15 years and can maybe just take delivery from them I can feel confident in his opinion, this one's worth pursuing.
 
Todd,

Sounds like the seller is lucky to have you for a buyer. A problem like that could really spook a newby.
 
My Wife and I talked at length last night.
With this issue arising and the fact that the boat sits in saltwater for several months each year, regretfully we are going to wait until spring, find a freshwater boat that is trailered regularly and know like I did with my last boat the outdrive was in perfect shape.
 
I would still continue the hunt now, in the Fall.

Spring is a seller's market.
 
Todd:

As hard as that may be to swallow right now in the prime of boating season, it will undoubtedly work out the best for you. If you didn't feel right taking that plunge, you shouldn't.

Now, if I may offer an opinion - you shouldn't necessarily wait until spring. Around here, the best deals on medium to large boats often happen in the fall, when owners don't want to pony up for another winter's storage. Just a thought..........

Best of luck in your search!

cheers,

Bill
 
Charlie and Bill,
That is probabaly a good idea. Trust me, not only do I stay connected to this site during the day, I will also keep looking. Like I said, I think I want to find a land locked, trailered boat that I can either drive to pick up inland, add FWC(if it's without) and pounce when ready.

Thanks
 
Todd................there are three fresh water 260 DA boats for sale in our Marina.......a 2004, a 2005, and a 2006. I can certainly inspect them thoroughly for you if you want and also get prices to ship them to the West Coast. I think you probably need to plan to buy a trailer anyway unless you just happen to hit upon one that comes with a trailer.

Let me know if you are interested.

Here are the links to the ads:


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/7/89366277.htm

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/1/9/87929319.htm

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/2/85768672.htm
 
Todd...........it might be worthwhile to consider a new one again too. Sea Ray has a lot of rebate money available now. Last year at this time when I bought mine Sea Ray kicked in an extra $9K. The pricing I got (with the rebate money) was close to 40 percent off list. I paid less for mine than any used 2005 or 2006 models being advertised on the market at that time.

Dave
 
Todd, you better have that new boat before our trip!!! I'd hate to have to email you all the photos of all the fun we are all having while you sit at home pining away!!! I know the feeling however, waiting 1 day short of a year to find the right boat.

I too am getting lots of ads for new Searays and as you know, don't own one... Looks like good deals too... Might be worth a peak?
 
I will definitely not miss the trip. Not to worry.
:cool:
I will be checking the SeaRay's out this fall and see where they're at $$ wise. Like Dave said incentives are high right now.
 

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