spun prop or bad engine coupler??

rktktpaul

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Oct 4, 2006
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Chicago, Illinois
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185 Sport
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Mercruiser 4.3l TKS w/ Alpha I Gen II
Okay, the family and I were out on the water today just taking a nice cruise. Launched the boat in our nearest river and headed towards the locks into Lake Michigan; all told, I'd say we traveled about 10 miles up river. We didn't plan on going out on the lake, so we turned around and started heading back down river to the launch.

Since there were a couple of marinas by the locks, we idled through the no wake zones. Once we were past, I opened up the throttle. The boat started getting up on plane and speeding up when suddenly it felt like some thing started pulling the boat back while the revs started going higher. I backed off the throttle and we settled in to nice forward movement, albeit a slow one. I had been in a situation once on my brother-in-law's boat where he spun the hub inside his prop - it felt very similar.

Throttled up once more and same thing happened; boat planed out and then started slowing down while the revs climbed. I put the boat in neutral and raised the drive to see if there was anything on the prop. The prop looked clean and I was able to spin it by hand (with the engine off of course) with no problems.

Resigned that I had spun the prop, I put the boat in forward and started gradually increasing speed until I could find the point where the prop would slip; if I idled the 10 miles back to the launch, I would never have heard the end of it from my whole family. So I kept bumping up the throttle little by little, until I was past the point where I had noticed the prop start slipping before (about 2,500 rpm). Pretty soon I was cruising at my usual 3,200 - 3,400 rpm.

After passing through a couple of no wake zones, I managed to throttle up with no difficulties. I even pushed WOT a couple of times.

Now one of the things that I am remembering at the time of the problem was the smell of burning rubber. I didn't really think anything of it since there is a considerable amount of industry on the shores of the river. But after reading some posts in this section, one of the signs of a bad engine coupler is the smell of burnt rubber.

So, can anyone venture a guess as to what might have happened? I have the 4.3l V6, carburated, with an Alpha 1 drive (1.81 ratio), both with about 40 hours on them.
 
If you have read some of the other postings, you probably realize by now that your symptoms are indicative of a bad coupler. This link will explain that pretty well. http://www.mercstuff.com/spunprop.htm

As to why your coupler might have failed, that may be more difficult to diagnose. Your engine may not be aligned properly but that is just speculation. Unfortunately, to replace the coupler the outdrive needs to come off and the engine needs to come out as well. I think your engine and outdrive should still be under warranty so hopefully that work will be covered.
 
Thanks Dave. I was afraid that the coupler might be it. Hopefully I can still splash the boat a couple of times before I take it in to the dealer.
 
I certainly wouldn't use it the way it is. If it fails completely while you are on the water that would not be good. :smt009
 
fwebster said:
If you take the boat out again knowing either the coupler or prop hub is bad, here's a phone number you need to take with you:

1-800-473-2869

and a website you may need: www.divorcelawyerchicago.com

I could not agree more....... Why would you risk doing more damage? I would just let the dealer do their thing.

Good luck and let us know the outcome.

Mark
 
fwebster said:
If you take the boat out again knowing either the coupler or prop hub is bad, here's a phone number you need to take with you:

1-800-473-2869

and a website you may need: www.divorcelawyerchicago.com

Thanks for the number; the one I have for TowBoatU.S. is a little different. The divorce attorney I already have on retainer. :grin:

The service department seems to think that I should check the prop by putting in gear on the trailer and try spinning the prop by hand. If that does nothing, then it was probably a fluke. Apparently once the engine coupler goes, it goes right away with no warning (supposedly).

He did say the smell of burning rubber is never good. :huh:
 
rktktpaul said:
fwebster said:
If you take the boat out again knowing either the coupler or prop hub is bad, here's a phone number you need to take with you:

1-800-473-2869

and a website you may need: www.divorcelawyerchicago.com

Thanks for the number; the one I have for TowBoatU.S. is a little different. The divorce attorney I already have on retainer. :grin:

The service department seems to think that I should check the prop by putting in gear on the trailer and try spinning the prop by hand. If that does nothing, then it was probably a fluke. Apparently once the engine coupler goes, it goes right away with no warning (supposedly).

He did say the smell of burning rubber is never good. :huh:


You are getting the run around if the service guys even talk about it being a "fluke". That link I provided does a good job of telling you how to analize the problem. And what they suggested you do by trying to spin the prop in gear may or may not prove anything. Even if the prop won't turn it doesn't mean you don't have a bad coupler. Call the Service Manager and make an appointment and let them figure out what is wrong. You have a problem and it needs to be fixed.
 
Just got the boat back from my local Mercruiser Premier Service Dealer. One hour labor to check out the engine and outdrive, remove the prop, grease the spline and replace the prop - Eighty five bux.

Found absolutely nothing wrong.
 
Let us know what happens after you lake test it. I just don't know how this type of a problem could just "go away" on its own. :huh:
 
Hey guys there is one other possibility for this problem, cavitation. I had a similar problem on my 23' Searay. I had the boat out all day and after going through a no-wake zone throttled up and all of a sudden the engine started overrevving and the boat stopped planning. this happened a few more times. I thought the same thing, that my coupler went bad. I had the drive trimed up a little too high and didn't realize it. I never had another problem after that. Just a thought. Good luck.
 

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