Side tie dock

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Blueone, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    This coming summer we are in a new Marina that is all side tie. I really don't like this setup so I am wondering if there is anything out there that will help keep the boat off the jetty with out using traditional bumpers. The wind is all over the place. It's either pushing the boat away or on the dock.

    The jetty is floating and the deck is about 18" off the water. They have 4"x 4" posts every 12' that are attached to the Jetty.

    I have seen these post covers below that would have the rub rail against the bumper and I have seen the spring rods.....is their anything else out there?... Or if I have no ther options what is the best thing to use to rub up against the rub rail?

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  2. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    I've seen some fiberglass whips (think a long fishing rod) that hold a boat off the dock but I'm not sure if they would work for a boat as large as yours. I think they're mostly for ski and wakeboard size boats.
     
  3. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    some people use old fire hoses with stainless screws that attach them to the fender piling. Works very well but needs to be replaced each year if you are in an active basin. Screws attach the hose well away from where they could damage your rub rail. No fan of side ties but we go to one marina that has this protection and it works very well.
     
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  4. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    If you get right down to it, your stainless rub rail is harder than the 4x4. I've never had a rail scratched rubbing up against wood. It can be noisy in a blow which is why you see people use protective devices. If you don't sleep on the boat while it is in the slip, you don't really need to worry about the boat rubbing on the spring pile if you are in a protected marina.
     
  5. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I call them spring rods... I think I would have to ask the Marina if it's okay to fasten them to the dock.... And your right they would have to be substantial
     
  6. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Two horizontal boards each with 2 bumpers behind them next to hull. They hang off the side of the boat with the board centered on each piling. Dock and spring lines attached to the main dock to keep the boat from moving fore and aft.
     
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  7. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    They do make them for a boat your size. I'v seen one or two around here. I think you would need to be in a protected basin to be really safe from a pole fracturing. We get 2-3 foot wakes in our slip and I would not trust them in our situation.
     
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  8. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I get this because anything with a cushion would run against the fiberglass if a hard wind
     
  9. Fly'n Family

    Fly'n Family Active Member

    601
    Sep 19, 2013
    TX / CO
    2002 Cruisers Yachts 3870
    2003 Boston Whaler Sport 130 w/40 hp Merc
    Twin 425hp Crusaders
  10. J.Wilt

    J.Wilt Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    752
    Jan 29, 2010
    W. Mich. / Lake Michigan
    420 Sundancer 2005
    Cumming 6cta V Drives
    Highfield 310 , 15hp Mercury
    I think a round piece of 3” pvc pipe maybe 3’ long would work better than a board. You could drill holes in the pvc and run your bumper cords through the holes in the pipe and let that ride on the post with a bumper on each side. Could even cover the pvc with fire hose.
     
  11. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    What are these "bumpers" that you guys speak of?
     
  12. electricaldoctor

    electricaldoctor Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    May 14, 2008
    Thousand Islands, Rockport, Ontario.
    1988 390 EC
    454 Mercruiser Gassers
    Probably means fenders.
     
  13. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    Question, not totally clear about floating versus fixed dock.

    Posting I got the impression of floating, when I looked at the picture, looked fixed.

    Could you clarify?

    We tend to be much more side tie than slip. Have learned a lot about the tie up.

    Larger boats do better than small boats. Small boat, yes get the whips. 40ft and above, forget the whips, they are a waste.

    Approach to the tie up is different for floating versus fixed docks.
     
  14. joeyleggz

    joeyleggz Member

    346
    Jan 15, 2013
    long island
    current boat: 1997 sea ray 330 express cruiser
    twin 454's efi

    Fender board look it up should do the trick
     
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  15. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I carry some of those canvas covered things. I tie up to some real cobbled up docks sometimes, they come in handy. Like you it's always about protecting the blue. At my home marina I use Taylormade Flat Fenders on the upright posts. They are tied to the post and the rub rail is all that makes contact. My dock doesn't float but it's on 20' I-beams that give, the posts on the dock give, and the Flat Fender has a little squish. Strong east winds rock/bounce the boat around pretty good but the actual impact between fender and rub rail amounts to nothing.

    With the right motion those canvas ones can make squeaking noises, the flat fenders never do. I've been using both these types for about 15 years and like them.
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  16. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    This is exactly what I was referring to.
     
  17. Third Edition

    Third Edition Active Member

    178
    Apr 9, 2017
    NE Florida
    360 Sundancer 2002
    T-8.1L V-drives
    We have slidemoors on our pilings and they handle the tides, winds, & boat wakes very well without fenders, spring lines, etc.

    There is a version for use at marinas. It doesn't get drilled into the piling, but is held in place by removable bands around the piling. http://www.slidemoor.com/SlideMoor/photo-gallery/
     
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  18. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    I've used fender boards and they work great. 1"x6" lumber is a good size and, unless they're going to be left outside to get rained on, don't have to be pressure treated.

    When I made mine I tied the lines from the board to the lines holding the fenders. I see a plus in doing it that way vs his way in that the fenders can't move. A minus in doing it that way is you have to haul the board and fenders back onboard when you're doing using them so it's more awkward and hard to store unless you take it apart. I think I like his method better.
     

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