Searay 320 potential purchase

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  1. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)
    Good morning and thank you for allowing me to join the ClubSeaRay Forum! Hope to soon be a proud owner of a SeaRay myself. I have boated pretty much my entire life having owned bowriders, pontoons, and center consoles (2 of which I still own). My family (myself, wife, and 2 young kids) are looking to embark on weekend cruiser life as we love boating and being on the water. We plan to use up and down the intercoastal and occasional coastal cruising as weather permits. The boat we have our eye on is a 2007 Sundancer 320 with twin Merc 350 v-drive. The boat itself has just over 500 hours total and the engines were recently rebuilt and sitting around 40 hours each. Generator is new and has 20 hours. Upholstery and A/C redone as well. Boat seems to be in fantastic shape and owned by what appears m by a couple with a open checkbook as far as upkeep/maintenance. They just upgraded to a larger SeaRay. What questions and I'm failing to ask the current owner? Having always ran outboards, 500 hours seems low to have had the engines rebuilt already no? Also, any comments/suggestions on owned a boat like this for a newbie? Thank you in advance for the responses!!
     
  2. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    I'd be very interested in the reason why both engines were rebuilt and the generator is new. Was there a fire? Partial sinking? Is this a hurricane boat?

    Both engines and gen being rebuilt/replaced at roughly the same time certainly suggests something rather significant may have happened to this boat.

    And welcome to CSR!
     
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  3. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)
    Nice observation! I had not even asked myself the question why all those components and upholstery would need to be replaced at the exact same time. Seller did not disclose any significant event or hurricane, but certainly doesn't meant it didn't happened. This may also explain the $90K price tag when others I've seen are around $120K with original engines.

    Thank you Stee6043!
     
  4. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    What he said.
     
  5. Timeflys

    Timeflys Active Member

    429
    Dec 7, 2013
    Thousand Islands, Ontario, Canada
    "Frequent Flyer"
    2002 Sundancer 360
    Merc Horizon 8.1s
    Phone or contact Searay with the hull number and find out where it was originally sold…might help with the history…or at least see if the owner is being honest. Chase down who did the work on the engines, maybe they know some history.
    2 rebuilt main engines, a low hour generator, new a/c and new upholstery on a 2007 boat sounds suspicious.
     
  6. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR. 5.7 Merc BIII
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer. 260 Merc Alpha 1 Gen 1
    5.7 Merc BIII
    Agreed. Suspicious why everything was replaced at such low hours and all at the same time. Thinking it may have been sunk or maybe improperly winterized and everything cracked
     
  7. Espos4

    Espos4 Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2017
    Long Island NY
    2007 240 Sundeck
    350 MAG Bravo 3 W/DTS
    Are you a “do it yourself” maintenance guy?
    A 320 with V drives is a tight space for doing any type work on the front of the motors, ie water pumps, serpentine belt etc.
     
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  8. sdarc

    sdarc Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2010
    Piedmont NC
    Boatless
    Boatless
    I think I saw this boat listed and had the same questions. Too suspicious.
     
  9. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Middle River, Chesapeake
    Pirate Lady
    1991 250 Sundancer
    MMSI 338377928
    7.4 carb, Bravo 1
    What he he they said. Nothing about this passes the smell test.
     
  10. SeaNile

    SeaNile Well-Known Member

    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    Boat Shopping
    Boat Shopping
    Way too many red flags!
     
  11. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Middle River, Chesapeake
    Pirate Lady
    1991 250 Sundancer
    MMSI 338377928
    7.4 carb, Bravo 1
    All that said, allow me to take the other side. Boats can sink. Suppose it did. You getting new engines, gen, ac new. It aint like the Mary Rose been sunk since 1540. Fiberglass hulls dont go bad from a quick wash. Electrics/wires/gauges/anything electric would scare me away.
     
  12. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)

    How ironic you say that! The boat has rebuilt gauges….not joking!
     
  13. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

    8
    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)
    I believe I’ve heard everything I need to know. The search continues!! Thank you all for the replies!

    I’ve got my eye on a 2012 280 Sundance single 350(no bow thruster, not sure how much that matters)
     
  14. HJVT

    HJVT New Member

    8
    Sep 21, 2021
    1999 340 sundancer
    7.4 MPI
    Thoroughly check under both engines, if any shaft seal leaks or rust on oil pan (you've mentioned about both engines were rebuilt, but just as extra precaution. If any leaks under the engines - it will be a very expensive repair. Just bought a 340 sundancer with rebuild starboard engine and urfotunately missed to check under the engine, shaft seal is leaking and oil pan has corrosion, it's a pain). Good luck with your future boat!
     
  15. SeaNile

    SeaNile Well-Known Member

    Aug 16, 2010
    Chadds Ford, PA
    Boat Shopping
    Boat Shopping
    Thought i saw a nice 320 (06/07) listed on marketplace with an asking price of 99. Not a bad price considering some are asking 120+. Might have been in the NJ area.
     
  16. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

    8
    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)
    I believe we have found a great boat for my family. It is a 2007 Sundancer 260 with 350 MPI BIII. The original engine has 196 hours. Boat has original 5K generator with 10 hours, A/C, fresh water engine cooling, vacuflush head, full camper enclosure, grille, etc. Still owned by the original owner and has been kept in mint condition and the price reflects this. I believe his OCD and mine align when it comes to maintenance and care. Having survey performed this Friday. Has tandem axle trailer in perfect condition. Plan to keep dry docked at marina, but nice to have the trailer. Given the condition of the boat, it has rarely (if ever) been kept in the water. Gel Coat is perfect and has never had bottom paint applied.

    I'm sure I am paying top $ for an immaculate boat, but I've learned before that you get what you pay for most the time when it comes to boats. Plus, I don't want to invest time in repairs and do want reliability.

    Smaller than the 320, but believe this to be the perfect beginner boat for cruisers and for my young family.

    I have read that this boat can get somewhat "tippy" due to the narrower beam. I assume this is common and does not pose any actual risks?

    Thanks!
     
  17. bbwhitejr

    bbwhitejr Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 14, 2013
    Lake Lanier GA
    2003 420DA, 6CTAs
    NA
    Our first was a 2006 260DA with same set up as you. Great boat to start off with. "Tippy" is a relative term. Learn how to properly trim the outdrive and she will respond perfectly. A lot has been written about the "tippy" situation and I do see why some would say this, but it was never an issue for us. I could run the boat WOT trimmed out and put it into a hard port or starboard turn and she performed like a dream.

    Enjoy!

    Bennett
     
  18. spikedaddy99

    spikedaddy99 Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 11, 2008
    Prentice, Wi
    2005 500 DB
    QSM-11
    Kids grow. You will be buying that 320 in a couple years.
     
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  19. Dcm2011

    Dcm2011 New Member GOLD Sponsor

    8
    Sep 27, 2021
    Lake City, FL
    - 2008 Pathfinder 2200XL
    - 2018 Ranger Reata 200C (Sold 9/30/2021)
    150HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    90HP Mercury Four stroke (Sold 9/30/2021)
    I can only hope this is the case! :)
     
  20. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    Middle River, Chesapeake
    Pirate Lady
    1991 250 Sundancer
    MMSI 338377928
    7.4 carb, Bravo 1
    Good choice. Tippy = fun. All my boats were/are <30ft. Why when i can easily afford far far bigger? Same reason i drove motorcycles and always drive sport cars. Fun! Not a luxury kind of guy. I like tippy. I like going out alone and not needing a crew. Big comfy slow dont appeal to me. I like a boat that handles. Dont want a cockpit sink/ fridge.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2021

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