Searay 190 vs 205, help needed :-)

Discussion in 'Sport Boats' started by sharpsolver, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. BillK2632

    BillK2632 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 25, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    1999 185 Bowrider,
    Mercruiser 4.3, Alpha I
    My 185 has the 4.3, really a great little boat and PLENTY of power from the 4.3 to do about anything you would want with that boat.
     
  2. KnotEasy

    KnotEasy Member

    242
    May 14, 2013
    Whitehall, Mi.
    205 Sport
    5.0L MPI
    I didn't sell it. Don't count on 59mph either, maybe on the trailer pulling it behind your truck. 55 mph on the water, yes.
     
  3. Stingrayaxe

    Stingrayaxe Member

    87
    Oct 29, 2015
    Crystal Lake
    2009 SeaRay 205 Sport
    2008 GMC Envoy
    5.0 Merc Alpha 1
    For what it's worth my TKS version starts first time every time. Haven't touched the carb. Just good maintenance. Nothing special.
     
  4. searay205

    searay205 Member

    47
    Nov 27, 2016
    Houston
    2011 Searay sport
    5.0MPI Catalyst
    I sold my Starcraft (3.0L) to a very heavy family. I had an extra prop and changed from the 21 pitch to 17 pitch. It planed much better but would top out at 35mph. My buddy has a 195 with the 5.0 liter TKS. Outside the fickle carburetor it is powered adequately. Oh very interesting and true what a previous poster said the 3.0liter is much louder than the 205. I guess the 205 outdrive sits deep in the water where the exhaust is cover.
     
  5. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Exhaust is through the prop and both boats have their props pretty much the same distance into the water - not enough of a difference to make any noticeable change, anyways. The 3.0L, itself, is a louder engine than the V8. The 175 also has less sound deadoning material than the 190 or the 205.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2018
  6. sharpsolver

    sharpsolver New Member

    15
    Jan 27, 2018
    Vienna Austria
    Searay 190 SPE (Sport Europe) 2013
    Towing Vehicle: BMW 2016 5 Series
    Merc. 3.0. 135hp Alpha One
    Alright, I saw the 205, the engine was in great condition, all maintenance was perfectly done.
    Unfortunately esp. the polstry and the inner surfaces looked more used after a few years on saltwater than expected.
    So I decided to first testdrive the 190 with the 3.0. engine that I already saw hibernating and that looked like new.
    As winter returned, it will take some time ... We will see ...
     
  7. MD185SportGuy

    MD185SportGuy New Member SILVER Sponsor

    27
    Mar 7, 2017
    Germantown, MD
    2012 Sea Ray 185 Sport
    Mercruiser 3.0 MPI
    Alpha One
    I've got a 3.0MPI in my 185 Sport (same hull as the 190) and with a 17P prop it performs quite well. These are fast hulls that get on plane quickly. I pull tubes and skiers all day long with it with 3-4 sizable adults in the boat (I'm 240 and my partner is 220) and couldn't be happier.

    The 3.0 noise comes from intake honk. The MPI has quite a different sound than a TKS so keep that in mind - but there are plenty of TKS videos out there that will fill you in.

    Here's my "flaccid miserable dog" of a 3.0 planing out with 2 in the boat, a full cooler, full ski locker and such. Don't mind that tach - it was broken and has since been replaced with the proper one. The 17p puts it right at 4850 at WOT.

     
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  8. sharpsolver

    sharpsolver New Member

    15
    Jan 27, 2018
    Vienna Austria
    Searay 190 SPE (Sport Europe) 2013
    Towing Vehicle: BMW 2016 5 Series
    Merc. 3.0. 135hp Alpha One
    Thx a lot for your experiences and the great video! It's getting warmer in Austria now, so we will get the 190 out for a ride in the next weeks!
     
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2018
  9. searay205

    searay205 Member

    47
    Nov 27, 2016
    Houston
    2011 Searay sport
    5.0MPI Catalyst
    That little poodle is noisy but acceleration was acceptable and did plane nicely. Had no idea they had a 3.0 liter MPI. So if the 5.0 TKS goes from 220hp to 260hp with MPI how much does the the 3.0 liter TKS gain going to the MPI?
     
  10. searay205

    searay205 Member

    47
    Nov 27, 2016
    Houston
    2011 Searay sport
    5.0MPI Catalyst
    just being ahole with the poodle comment!!!!! 3.0 liter can't be killed
     
  11. MD185SportGuy

    MD185SportGuy New Member SILVER Sponsor

    27
    Mar 7, 2017
    Germantown, MD
    2012 Sea Ray 185 Sport
    Mercruiser 3.0 MPI
    Alpha One
    Unfortunately nothing. It's still 135, however the fuel efficiency went up quite a bit, plus it is catalyzed so it's low/no odor. Some people have griped that the emissions hamper the performance, but I have been around 3.0Ls all my life and it is no different. They are not that common so a lot of people don't have experience with both.

    The biggest gain is that it fires right up, is noticeably smoother than a TKS - especially at idle, has full Smartcraft capability and diagnostics, and it sounds quite a bit different - much deeper and lower toned. My iPhone amplifies it a lot - under normal cruising in my boat it is decently quiet - when you pin the throttle it booms a bit though. I've noticed that when I have my usual haul of junk in the bilge (life jackets, towels, toilet, full water tank for the transom shower, cooler, etc) it is much quieter due to less echo.
     
  12. searay205

    searay205 Member

    47
    Nov 27, 2016
    Houston
    2011 Searay sport
    5.0MPI Catalyst
    I had a 3.0 liter for 31 years. Had the mercarb carburetor. At my age got tired of waiting to see if the wife was going to give it throttle so it wouldn't stall while i was getting the kids ready to tube. She never did without me saying something, lol. Went fuel injection and LOVE it. I must of had over 3000 hours on the engine, original alternator, water pump, carburetor, radiator hoses. Replaced the starter once and manifold twice. All salt water. Mine had thru transom exhaust it was loud! Miss the smell of ether, lol. Funny i have catalysed engine also and sometime get a skunk smell. Very faint. Maybe its just my passengers!! Your boat definelty planed better than mine, I alway had the off idle stumble (accelerator pump).
     

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