Sailboat Sinks, Sad End To The Dream...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MonacoMike, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    No PFD for the dog
    SPCA should go after them
     
  2. skunkman

    skunkman Member

    337
    May 27, 2014
    Longboat Key
    Looking for 330 Sundancer
    350 twins
    "How do I have everything," Walsh said, "and end up in a s----- hotel with nothing?"

    Maybe it's because you are an idiot. I can't believe people actually contributed to his Gofund account.
     
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  3. CNYBoater

    CNYBoater Member

    58
    Aug 14, 2017
    1994 200 Overnighter, Single Axle Easy Load'r Galvanized Trailer, 2009 Chevy Trailblazer
    Single 1994 Mercury Black Max V135 O/B
    I don't understand the no insurance thing, especially going off shore. I had insurance on my current and previous boats from the day I bought them. They were insured while sitting on the trailers making sure everything was square before hitting the water for the first time. I'm just an inland lake guy but still... protect what you have and don't put family on something untested.
     
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  4. Happy Dayz

    Happy Dayz Active Member

    240
    Jun 26, 2017
    Sarasota, FL
    '06 260 Sundancer, 6.2, BIII, Kohler 5kw
    79' classic Kona Family Cruiser jet boat..
    6.2 w/ BIII, 502 w/ Berkekley
    so far $12,700 dollars raised
     
  5. DarkJester

    DarkJester Member

    139
    Jul 26, 2011
    North Alabama, Guntersville lake, Tennessee River
    2011 270 SLX
    Merc 8.2 MAG Bravo III
    I would like to retire and spend more time on my boat. Can I start a GoFundMe page for that?
    Or even better, let me sell all my stuff, do something really stupid, then get everyone else to pay for my mistake.
    Being stupid and making stupid decisions that lead to catastrophe should hurt. Period. Getting others to pay for your mistakes doesn't teach you anything except that it's okay to be a dumba$$, somebody will bail you out.
    Sorry. Not on my team.
    Now, if Betty and Fred Wannabe went and got themselves a boat, got some insurance, took classes, got certified, sailed around in well known waters, asked other boaters to show them around, (and we generally love to do just that), and generally got used to their boat for a couple of years, saved some bucks, understood what it takes to make a huge trip on the water, (I think they call that Experience), then went out and had themselves a disaster, I might feel differently. BUT, they wouldn't need a GoFundMe page to help them. They would have planned ahead, had insurance, had some money, had a backup plan.
    Burned out at 24 and 26. KMA. I've been working since I was 15, I'm 57, and I did 4 in the Air Force.
    Geeze. This kind of crap catches me in the quick.
    Sorry about the rant.
     
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  6. Bop

    Bop Member

    223
    Sep 3, 2013
    Georgian Bay/Lake Huron
    2001 410 Express, Highfield DL350 w/40hp Yamaha
    Cat 3126
    There was all kinds of criticism on that too. Not sure why you’re linking the two. I’m 40 and I’ve worked my ass off to buy my boats. “Old privilege”? Spare me. These are two people who aren’t taking responsibility for bad decisions and want others to bail them out. End of story.
     
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  7. b_arrington

    b_arrington Member SILVER Sponsor

    496
    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    270 Amberjack (2006)
    AB Ventus 9 VL RIB
    350 Mag MPI Horizon w/ BIII
    1998 Envinrude 15 HP 2-stroke
    Very good point. The first thing I did after I got my first apartment was arrange for renters insurance to secure all my stuff. And that was for a building that doesn't tend to, you know, sink.

    And the first thing I did when I bought my first sail boat was insure it. Even though the boat cost me $1 and it was for pleasure use.
     
  8. b_arrington

    b_arrington Member SILVER Sponsor

    496
    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    270 Amberjack (2006)
    AB Ventus 9 VL RIB
    350 Mag MPI Horizon w/ BIII
    1998 Envinrude 15 HP 2-stroke
    Ooh, my dream boat is smaller, a Back Cove 34. I'd even take a used one. Maybe I should start a gofundme too!
     
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  9. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    Suppose Gofund me is like begging on the corner but there is no effort. No idea who contributes to them. I asked my accountant about them as I know some one with pancreatic cancer that is into alternative treatment. Got 90K so far. I did not contribute. Accountant said it is considered income and you pay tax on it. As far as I know no cure for pancreatic cancer once it gets to stage 4.
     
  10. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    Responding to Boater420:

    Bah Humbug!

    Both the guy in the Powerboat and the couple in the sailboat had less commonsense than a turtle crossing an LA freeway.

    Don't forget to add the two women who were "hours away" from starvation (although both appear to be overfed) on their stranded sailboat south west of Hawaii.
     
  11. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    I'm still trying to figure out how CNN is going to blame Trump for this.....
     
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  12. blaster

    blaster Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
    potomac river
    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F150 5.4 xlt 4x4
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    Pretty soon they will have enough to buy a new boat and destroy it. Perhaps their next boat could be a Moody 41, or maybe a Bavaria Vision 46. That way they will have more room for the dog.

    I think I'm going to change my insurance to that Go Fund Me company.
     
  13. Tradition

    Tradition New Member

    13
    Jan 17, 2018
    Wilmington Ohio
    2005 260 DA
    8.1 Mercruiser w/Bravo III Drive
    While it was stupid as to how they went about this idea, I do have to say that it did take guts. I think that at one point or another we as fellow water lovers have all had this idea or dream. I know I have. I was joking with the wife about it last week. We either realized that we were not ready or didn't have the guts. I do hope that in the end that they make right with those involved and stand back and take a smarter approach to their dream. I have to say at least they tried. That can be harder to find than anything now a days, most people don't even want to try.
     
  14. blaster

    blaster Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 23, 2011
    potomac river
    2010 sea ray 205 sport
    F150 5.4 xlt 4x4
    Mercruiser 4.3 mpi alpha 1.62
    But to have a dream you first have to live in reality.
     
  15. Tradition

    Tradition New Member

    13
    Jan 17, 2018
    Wilmington Ohio
    2005 260 DA
    8.1 Mercruiser w/Bravo III Drive
    That's true.
     
  16. Jharpe21

    Jharpe21 New Member

    19
    Jan 26, 2018
    In search of newish boat, 2000 yamaha ls2000, 97 maxum 2300
    5.7, twin 135's
    They could definently go places on a 28 foot sailboat if it was equipped properly but obviously they had no idea what they were doing .. The best thing that ever happened to them was sinking that boat before they got into open water
     
  17. NorCal Boater

    NorCal Boater Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2008
    Covington, LA
    Cobalt CM23
    GM SB 383" Stroker" Alpha Gen I
    With all due respect there was not one iota of guts involved. They were clueless and just decided to do it knowing that someone else would take care of the shit when it hit the fan. It was more a case of entitlement.

    I've seen the GoFundMe thing work well for people that really needed the money but the fact that people are funding this clown so he can do it again absolutely astounds me. I wish I could feel that this guy has learned something from this experience but I'm afraid all he has learned is how to eff something up and get someone else to pay for it so he can do it again.

    Just baffling....
     
  18. BillK2632

    BillK2632 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 25, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    1999 185 Bowrider,
    Mercruiser 4.3, Alpha I
    I follow a few couples on youTube that have done this (MJ Sailing, Sailing LaVagabonde, Sean & Julia Sailing) - they are chasing a dream also, just a little (a lot) more prepared and smart about it. None of these couples started off with fancy new boats, either (a little bigger than 28ft), and somehow the La Vagabonde crew managed a new Outremer catamaran last year - but they didn't ask us to pay for it. MJ Sailing bought a aluminum hull of a mess and spent two years in a boat yard restoring it. They all fund some of their adventure through Patreon - subcribe and pay to support their videos, or don't, it's your choice. I have not seen any of them use go fund me to solicit $$, they all seem to realize the funding and responsibility of their lifestyle is on them. Sometimes this means you quit sailing and go to work to replenish the kitty. If I were 30yrs younger and had a good looking Aussie girl to go off sailing around the world with, I just might start a Go Fund Me - just sayin.

    I guess my point is, there are people out there doing this the right way - I've watched the ones I mentioned above plan, wait for weather, plan their arrival around tides, daylight, etc - not go blindly into an unknown inlet at night. Granted some of them have run into trouble, you have to figure something is going to happen when you start sailing all over and into unknown waters - but they are prepared to handle it - well mostly - at least none of them has lost a boat yet. But these two, I am not saying they had it coming, but anyone could have seen this one coming, they should count themselves lucky it happened in US waters close to shore and not in some remote place where they might have lost their lives also. No $$, no insurance, no plan, no sympathy. If I knew the $$ was going to help Remy the Pug I might contribute - he deserves better.
     
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  19. Happy Dayz

    Happy Dayz Active Member

    240
    Jun 26, 2017
    Sarasota, FL
    '06 260 Sundancer, 6.2, BIII, Kohler 5kw
    79' classic Kona Family Cruiser jet boat..
    6.2 w/ BIII, 502 w/ Berkekley
    $14,336...
     
  20. Boater420

    Boater420 Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2015
    Clearwater, FL
    '97 330 Sundancer
    V-Drives
    Westerbeke 4.5BCG
    Twin Merc 454's
    Agreed, exactly my point.

    It's just interesting that there weren't nearly as many negative posts about the old man in the powerboat.
     

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