Sailboat Sinks, Sad End To The Dream...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MonacoMike, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    They did not drown plus the dog is fine and when they are 60 they will have a good story to tell. Perhaps by then they will have a cruise and be retired for the second time.
     
  2. JimT

    JimT Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jul 7, 2009
    Charlotte, NC- LKN
    2010 330 Sundancer
    T-350mags w/BIIIs & Axius, 5.0 kw Kohler
    I agree. For every story that ends like this there are 20 where the sailors don't mess up and see the world. I haven't trashed a boat but I have run aground and needed help to get off. Embarrassed yes, the margin is slight.

    We who boat from docks should celebrate those few that are willing to cast off for adventure.
     
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  3. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    This question is to anyone in the know, are there really that many people cruising the Caribbean in 50-year-old under 30 foot vessel's?

    MM
     
  4. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    A high school friend of mine spent his life hopping around from island to island to atoll in the Pacific. Odd jobs, sailboats, power boats, fishing, charter work, more fishing, drinking, and chasing brown women, it lasted for over 30 years. His adventure ended in a car accident on a island that only had 12 miles of road.
     
  5. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I don’t know which is more of a symbol of the impending doom:
    A. They are burnt out and don’t want to work anymore at the ripe old ages of 26 & 24?

    B. They capsize their boat and rather than getting jobs they start a go fund me page so other people can pay.
     
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  6. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Where does it say they started a go fund me page?
     
  7. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/...ions-for-sailboat-sinks-2-days-into-trip.html

    However, the couple, who has been left with just $90 in cash, no jobs and no boat insurance, say they are still hopeful for their world-sailing plans and have started a GoFundMe begging people to help them “not give up on [their] dreams.

    The pair are seeking $10,000 to rescue the ship, which sunk off the coast of Madeira Beach, FL. Walsh said raising the boat alone will cost at least $6,700.”
     
  8. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    After a recent trip to the NY Boat Show one of my dreams now is to own a brand new 45’ Sabre. It would be even sweeter if it came with a couple of attractive women with a liberal view of physical relationships, no inhibitions and an appreciation for old guys.
    Maybe I should start a go fund me page...........
     
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  9. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    The whole 'GoFundMe' concept turns me off for any purpose and definitely ruined this story for me.
     
  10. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Yeah, was kind of a deal breaker for me too.
    My first instinct was that they were lazy coddled millennials.
    Once I got down to the go fund me part I quickly realized that they’re spoiled and entitled a$$holes too.
     
  11. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    You're right about one part of what you wrote: I'm far removed from my early 20's. Fifty years removed to be more exact.

    Maybe because I had the good fortune to grow up on and boat on Lake Huron and be exposed to the horrific storms that can come roaring down the lake. Given the experience with those storms, there's no way in hell I would have ventured out like they did.

    The sad thing about that whole venture is what they did exposed not only themselves to danger but also those who came to their rescue and those who had to remove the boat.

    They had their heads so far up their arses it gave them tunnel vision and enabled them to ignore all of the common sense warnings that normal people are aware of and heed.

    Sorry Woody, but I'm getting damned tired of these people who just thing "Well, hell, I can do that...." Their lack of intelligent planning ranks right up there with the guy who says "Hey Bubba. Hold my beer and watch this."
     
  12. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    That inlet is shallow. The most recent Mariner notice has a low mark of 4' of water and a narrow passage. Nothing wrong with the boat.....it lasted 50 years. The sailors that ran her aground will be lucky to live that long.

    They need to find jobs and pay the State back for scrapping the boat for them. While I would like to feel bad for these idiots....it just isn't worth the effort. They are in the same category as the two women who were rescued by the Navy off of Hawaii.
     
  13. k9medic

    k9medic Active Member

    535
    Mar 27, 2013
    Florida
    2005 23' twin engine jet boat
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin jet 160hp.
    twin 3116 CATs
    I last came through John's Pass in mid Febraury of 2017. It was daylight and I am familiar with the pass and I STILL almost ran aground on a shoal.

    There is no way in HELL that I would have tried it at night.

    I have to wonder why they didn't stay in the ICW all the way down. Lots of places to "pull off"
     
  14. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
    And why is it that the HR teams at most companies these days, tell us that WE have to adapt our approach to the new millennial way of thinking?
     
  15. MikeBravo

    MikeBravo Member

    87
    Jan 20, 2016
    Treasure Island, FL
    2007 Sundancer 320
    1988 Grady White 24 Offshore
    DA-Twin 350 MAG MPI Mercruisers, V-drive
    GW-Twin 2009 E-Tec 130hp outboards
    I have gone through John's Pass many times. It has silted in and after Irma is even worse. Why this has not had emergency dredging by the Corps of Engineers I don't know it's used a lot. An inexperienced captain at night should never have tried it. You have to zig-zag to get in and it is very narrow in one spot.
     
  16. Alegria

    Alegria Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Lancaster,PA Boat: -Sue Creek, MD
    2000 410 DA
    3126 CAT
    Sad story, but what did they learn? They raised $10,826 when I looked at the GFM page so looks like the boaters that use John's Pass don't have to worry about a sunken sailboat as the next submerged object to cause issues. Question is will they use the funds to raise it or will the boat still be there in 2-3 months?

    What I learned from the story... Well some of it I already knew and it didn't cost me thousands.

    1. Wear your PFD at night when the only other person aboard is holding a spot light navigating on the bow.
    2. When navigating an unknown channel and something is not right, stop time out and get re-oriented.
    3. Plan to arrive at new ports during daylight. If you can't do it pick another stop
    4. Get local knowledge prior to trying to navigate a new channel (Active Captain is free...)
    5. Know your weather window, wind speed/direction, and tides.

    From the story on the GFM page looks like the boat "struck a submerged object". I wish them the best.
     
  17. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    This says it better than I can:

     
  18. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers
    At the risk of sounding rational......the draft on that sail boat model appears to be 4+'. Who enters a channel when the charts clearly show that mean water is 4' .........unless you really have a handle on the inlet and the tides?

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    282
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    Having sailed for a few decades and owned several sailboats, this was a recipe for disaster. Fortunately they were close to the U.S. shore. Lets review the facts: No cash/savings, no experience, old boat, weather (fog rolling in),night time and a new port. What could go wrong.
     
  20. Boater420

    Boater420 Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2015
    Clearwater, FL
    '97 330 Sundancer
    V-Drives
    Westerbeke 4.5BCG
    Twin Merc 454's

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