Remote monitoring

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  1. Pour Excuse

    Pour Excuse New Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Aug 24, 2021
    Bayview Idaho
    1997 400 sedan bridge
    2x Cat 3116
    Twin Cat 3116 Turbo Diesels
    Hello All
    I have just purchased a sedan bridge
    I am concerned about remote monitoring the following
    -Temp in cabin
    -Temp in engine room
    -Shore power
    -Battery systems
    -Water
    Our marina supplies Wi-Fi and am wondering what is being used out there?
     
  2. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    You're looking for a boat status monitoring system. You'll want one that has it's own cellular system. Most/all require a subscription.

    The market leader is probably Siren Marine. Has been around for about 10 years with a couple versions of the system. The Siren 3 Pro is the latest, and is being offered as an option or standard higher end builders. It will monitor a number of systems, including temperatures, high water, bilge pump activity, AC power, battery level, and has multiple type of entry detection (alarms). Will send you alerts via an app. Has NMEA 2000 integration to take in engine data and other N2K sensors. Also supports device switching via relays, as well as C-zone switching. This is on my wish list of systems to install.

    Two recent market entries are Garmin OnDeck and Vesper Corex. OnDeck is kinda similar to Siren, but Siren seems more complete? Garmin's intro was pretty low key - I'm not quite sure their plans for it. Vesper Corex is a multi-functional product, with the main function be AIS and VHF, with boat monitoring being another function. It doesn't seem to monitor as much as Siren, but seems like a more diamond in the rough with Vesper continuously adding new functions.

    GOST is another monitoring system but seems more designed for very large yachts, with a price and service fee to match. It has options for security, monitoring, sat tracking, surveillance, and sensor-based activation of disorienting systems (smoke, ultra-loud alarms, strobes).
     
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  3. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    1998 450 Sundancer, Achilles dinghy w/15hp
    3126 Cat's
    I went with Simply Safe almost 5 years ago after our burglary. It has all of the security features that you need and smoke alarm, CO alarm, water alarm, I have temperature sensors, loss of power notifications, etc. It was plug and play with everything around $400 with a month to month @ $25/
     
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  4. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Dickson, TN / Chattanooga, TN
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alphas
    Kohler 4kW
  5. 370Dancer

    370Dancer Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Florida - Alabama
    1998 370 Sundancer
    380hp MAG MPI Gen VI with V drives
    I'm cheap. I use a LaCrosse temp/humidity and temp/water alarm set of sensors tied to a Gateway that connects to the internet, and broadcasts to me every 30 minutes on my Iphone app. If I lose power (or the boat goes for a ride), I am notified within an hour of loss of power/broadcast. The equipment is about 50 bucks, and the subscription is more like 10 bucks per year. We had an entire network set up on our dock in Huntsville for low temp warnings, or power outages at Ditto over the winters. At this point, I can tell if my A/C has shut down, or if I lost power, or if I have water where it shouldn't be.
    The main maintenance for this system is changing batteries in the sensors. About every 30 days.
    https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Alert...15211&pd_rd_wg=zAiOy&pd_rd_i=B00BTJQTTM&psc=1
    The only drawback is that the Gateway is not wireless to your router/internet. You have to use a wired connection.
     
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  6. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
  7. ocgrant

    ocgrant Official Bahamas Boating Ambassador GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 31, 2006
    Miami / Ft Lauderdale
    H2O Therapy
    2006 Sundancer 48
    Novurania 430DL
    Yamaha EX-R
    PADI Divemaster
    Raymarine Electronics
    Cummins QSC 540's
    Got to say first summer I have had my Siren Marine system and it has been awesome. Even worked in the Bahamas. Can't say enough about the alerts, worked perfectly as just a few weeks ago got the alert for rear transom door during a Zoom call none the less. "Who is on my boat?" Jumped on my dock camera to see and found my detailer sneaking in a courtesy wash the day before I was to leave for Bahamas... Well worth the yearly fee in my mind.
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  8. flyboycj84

    flyboycj84 Active Member

    175
    Feb 20, 2014
    Merritt Island FL
    2008 Meridian 391
    QSB 5.9
    What sensor is the “Cummins” sensor that says engines off?
     
  9. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    Siren 3 Pro includes N2K connectivity. It can read engine data that’s on the N2K network. So it’s likely not just one sensor, but a range of them on the motor.
     
  10. flyboycj84

    flyboycj84 Active Member

    175
    Feb 20, 2014
    Merritt Island FL
    2008 Meridian 391
    QSB 5.9
    Ah I got ya. I have the older Siren. Thx.
     
  11. ocgrant

    ocgrant Official Bahamas Boating Ambassador GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 31, 2006
    Miami / Ft Lauderdale
    H2O Therapy
    2006 Sundancer 48
    Novurania 430DL
    Yamaha EX-R
    PADI Divemaster
    Raymarine Electronics
    Cummins QSC 540's
    Correct, full N2K data as well as another notification if the engines are turned on I get a instant notification.
     
  12. flyboycj84

    flyboycj84 Active Member

    175
    Feb 20, 2014
    Merritt Island FL
    2008 Meridian 391
    QSB 5.9

    I really wish they’d get goin with cameras for the system.....they’ve said they’re coming for awhile now.
     
  13. b_arrington

    b_arrington Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    Back Cove 37
    AB Ventus 9VL
    Cummins QSC 8.3 600
    Have they really? I'd imagine that adds an entirely new level of complexity.

    Also would dramatically change their cellular data use. The current systems should use very little data, and they could get some favorable rates. Adding video feeds would certainly change their bandwidth so Siren would need a different agreement with carriers.
     
  14. Pour Excuse

    Pour Excuse New Member SILVER Sponsor

    23
    Aug 24, 2021
    Bayview Idaho
    1997 400 sedan bridge
    2x Cat 3116
    Twin Cat 3116 Turbo Diesels
    Thank you all
    I am currently studying these options.
    I do have a Garmin monitoring system for engine functions and am assuming this I’d the n2k platform mentioned.
    the marina has steady WiFi but cell coverage can be spotty
     
  15. ocgrant

    ocgrant Official Bahamas Boating Ambassador GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 31, 2006
    Miami / Ft Lauderdale
    H2O Therapy
    2006 Sundancer 48
    Novurania 430DL
    Yamaha EX-R
    PADI Divemaster
    Raymarine Electronics
    Cummins QSC 540's
    Yes I think video would be a big ask with 4g cellular. Siren just got bought by Yamaha so I expect they will get an injection of $$$ for development. As 5G gets better we will see more data exchange but it is too spotty now. For me I have video covered via WiFi
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  16. Blown284

    Blown284 Active Member

    917
    Jan 12, 2014
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 SeaRay Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    I've been using boat command for quite some time and love it. I also just recently purchased the Cortex device which is VHF, AIS, DSC and also, to some degree can be used to monitor other devices onboard. Haven't hooked all of it up yet but looks promising!
     
  17. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's

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