Question about BoatUs online course for VA/DC/MD

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by ZZ13, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    I am new to cruising and am taking the BoatUs online course for the District of Columbia this morning since DC requires a certification. Virginia does not require a certification (yet). But I noticed their terms for the course are different than the DC terms. DC is 6 modules with 10 questions at the end of each module and a final 75 question exam (need 75% right to pass). Virginia is a timed module that makes you spend a total of 6 hours on the test. 10 questions at the end of each section and no final exam. Gotta get 90% right to pass.

    Even though its the same test, do I need to pass it under each state's terms (meaning will I need to take it twice and potentially a third time for Maryland) to be certified for that state?
     
  2. alnav

    alnav Member GOLD Sponsor

    746
    Sep 16, 2009
    West River, MD
    40 MY
    QSB 425
    Actually, Virginia does require Boating Safety for PWC operators under 50 and any boat operator under 20. The requirement seems to be for a National Association of Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA)-approved course, which both the DC version and the Virginia version appear to be. So, I would think you're OK with a single certificate no matter where you go.
     
  3. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    97 270DA 5k Kohler A/C,
    85 Monaco 197
    7.4 300hp BII,
    260hp Alpha 1
    My thinking is you need the certification of the state you live or boat from. If this is wrong please let me know. I live in a state without a course requirement so I do not think one is needed in other states waters as long as I am from a state without.

    MM
     
  4. alnav

    alnav Member GOLD Sponsor

    746
    Sep 16, 2009
    West River, MD
    40 MY
    QSB 425
    Mike, each state seems to be different but in general, the requirement is to have completed a course approved by the state, the evidence is the certificate of successful completion. BoatUS has an online learning center with a map which leads to a page for each state; not all accept the BoatUS course (Maryland, for example). Interestingly, it looks like most all states do have a requirement, but it's grandfathered by age so more and more of the folks on this forum (and us old people's children) do need to conform.
    Not sure your assumption about living in a state without a requirement for your age group exempts you from needing it if you go to a place that does. The reason the OP and I need to be compliant is that if you drive your boat into District of Columbia waters (which requires a Boating Safety course completion regardless of age) you may get cited if you can't produce an approved course completion certification.
     
  5. Bob & Sue

    Bob & Sue Active Member

    Jun 3, 2011
    Browns Point Tacoma WA
    Sold 1999 270DA Sundancer
    5.7l Mercuiser
  6. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    Thanks everyone. Good news - I am over 50. Bad news - I am over 50. I am 1/3rd of the way through the DC version of the course. I'll finish that even though I register the boat in Virginia. I'll call it done after that - no plans to take anymore versions of the course for any other state.
     
  7. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    97 270DA 5k Kohler A/C,
    85 Monaco 197
    7.4 300hp BII,
    260hp Alpha 1
    My rational was the same as driving. Every state sets their own insurance limits for cars regesterd there but I do not have to conform to every states limits just mine to be legal. If I leave Indiana waters on the great loop and find myself in DC waters they could cite me? Which is what I hope to get answered here definitively.

    MM
     
  8. alnav

    alnav Member GOLD Sponsor

    746
    Sep 16, 2009
    West River, MD
    40 MY
    QSB 425
    Yes, they could and would cite you.
     
  9. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    That's what the locals tell me and why I am taking the DC version. FYI, there are several DC specific questions in each section. I would think that DC wants you to prove you've seen all those DC specifics if they stop you.
     
  10. Bob & Sue

    Bob & Sue Active Member

    Jun 3, 2011
    Browns Point Tacoma WA
    Sold 1999 270DA Sundancer
    5.7l Mercuiser
    Mike I was also curious about other states here is what DC states.

    The MPD Harbor Patrol Unit will be hosting boating safety classes for the 2012
    boating season. The Boating Safety course is designed to educate boaters of the
    legal requirements, navigational rules, safety equipment, risks of boating
    accidents, and other issues pertaining to safe boating. Anyone operating a
    vessel on District of Columbia waterways is required to have a Boating Safety
    Certificate. The Boating Safety Certificate is issued to individuals who
    successfully complete the Boating Safety course.

    http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1237,q,559121,mpdcNav_GID,1550,mpdcNav,%7C31855%7C.asp
     
  11. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    97 270DA 5k Kohler A/C,
    85 Monaco 197
    7.4 300hp BII,
    260hp Alpha 1
    What are: "District of Columbia waterways"?

    MM
     
  12. alnav

    alnav Member GOLD Sponsor

    746
    Sep 16, 2009
    West River, MD
    40 MY
    QSB 425
    District Waters
    - the area of all navigable waters within the District of Columbia and the shores and structures adjacent to those waters.
     
  13. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    97 270DA 5k Kohler A/C,
    85 Monaco 197
    7.4 300hp BII,
    260hp Alpha 1
    This topic has it's own thread now


    http://clubsearay.com/showthread.ph...y-certificate-for-every-state-one-may-boat-in
     
  14. Mikemapva

    Mikemapva Member

    469
    Aug 6, 2007
    Potomac River, VA
    2001 Chaparral Signature 300
    Twin 5.0 Volvo DPs with 7KW Kohler
    Mike,

    In answer to your question above about DC waterways, I'll give a little local knowledge.

    The navigable part of the Potomac River is bordered by Virginia on one side and DC and Maryland on the other. In colonial times, it was decided that the boundary line would not be down the middle as in most areas, but instead is the mean low waterline on the Virginia shore. This means that effectively the entire river belongs to Maryland and DC. So, the navigable waters in DC are essentially the Potomac River north of the Woodrow Wilson Bridge and the Anacostia River. This includes the water off of Alexandria and Arlington, VA.

    This boundary has lead to some interesting twists over the years. Back in the 1950's slot machines were illegal in Virginia, but legal in Maryland, so piers were built from Virginia into Maryland territory and the slots were declared legal. Today, one of my boating favorite restaurants, Tim's 2 in Fairview Beach, VA, has to follow Maryland liquor laws as the restaurant is on a pier.

    Mike
     
  15. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    97 270DA 5k Kohler A/C,
    85 Monaco 197
    7.4 300hp BII,
    260hp Alpha 1
    Thanks, MM
     

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