Price of gas

$4.90 per gallon here in Wrightsville Beach. With the beautiful weather I expected to see more boats out on the water too.... there were a few but it was still pretty quiet.... actually it was nice - no one on the water that I had to slow down or dodge... beautiful day and I had the ICW all to myself!

I know, it's crazy. I'm bringing up my 2001 290DA this weekend from Myrtle Beach and I don't plan to buy any fuel for the trip in NC if I don't have to. Of course that will change once the boat is here. But it's always astounded me how high gas is on the water. Why? They're charging anywhere from $1.30-$1.80 (give or take) higher than the land pump prices. Makes you want to go buy a couple of 15 gallon rolling tanks and just fill up at the gas station. Of course that isn't allowed on the dock and I wouldn't do that anyway.

I've always found it interesting how once you hit the SC border, gas drops by 30 cents per gallon. I always say jackpot when I see that. Welcome to NC, one of the highest gas taxes in the country!
 
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I'd hate to be one of the guys that signs a gas tax hike into law in SC. SC voters will send them packing...
 
I have to truck my gas in W/ 5 gallon cans. Cheapest here is 3.37 PG. There is no gas on the river. Besides it's good exercise for me.
That reminds me time to fill it up!!
 
My marina will allow you bring in your own gas as long as you fill at the fuel island. They have every thing handy to take care of spills


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It's not like every body started driving cars 10 years ago (here or overseas), plus cars of today burn much less fuel than older ones, so increasing global demand is a farce.

Yep! It's a farce!! When oil hit $120 a barrel everyone said "oh, once it gets below $100 the prices w I'll go back down. We will never see gasoline below $3 a gallon in our life time. This current administration has sealed the deal and oil company's tax rate is astronomical

Gasoline is a commodity in and of itself seperate from oil. Study after study has found that once the public has more fuel efficient cars they just drive more rather than save the fuel savings. When gas was cheap the Asian economy was in the toilet. We are for sure competing with China and India for oil.

MM
 
As for the NC vs SC fuel tax, NC total gas tax is $.5615 compared with SC at $.3515. NC is in the top 10 highest while SC is the third lowest in the country.

MM
 
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Scott, if we don't believe the stats we can't discuss the issue. Here is world oil usage per day since 1965. Note sharp increase in Asia. They are building all our stuff they have to use huge amounts of oil.

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MM
 
Fact is, the Chinese have had cars now for a long, long, long, long, time. Their economy is not booming for the average Joe over there,

The Chinese economy is booming at over 4 times the GDP growth the US has and many reports of a growing middle class there are available. The economy of India is also better than the US but not as strong as the Chinese. China was mostly dirt poor so they will not yet live as we do, and will not for a long time, but reports indicate they are on their way. The government is losing total control of the people.

I sometimes feel like I'm making excuses or defending policies and situations I despise, but this is the way it is. Want to lower gas and oil prices cut stupid EPA regulations, fast track new and expanding refineries, and open up rich oil lands now off limits to save snails or flies.

I got others if you want them. Lol

MM
 
The Chinese economy is booming at over 4 times the GDP growth the US has and many reports of a growing middle class there are available. The economy of India is also better than the US but not as strong as the Chinese. China was mostly dirt poor so they will not yet live as we do, and will not for a long time, but reports indicate they are on their way. The government is losing total control of the people.

I sometimes feel like I'm making excuses or defending policies and situations I despise, but this is the way it is. Want to lower gas and oil prices cut stupid EPA regulations, fast track new and expanding refineries, and open up rich oil lands now off limits to save snails or flies.

I got others if you want them. Lol

MM

I travel there 3- 4 times a year..believe me the wealth is burgeoning. I now regularly travel to a small city for China, Population 600,000. I stay in the Best Western, which is renowned as the best hotel in the town. I walked down out one morning, in the carpark was 3 Ferraris, 3 Mercs, 4 or 5 BMWs and the same in Audi's.
 
Seems like I read somewhere that there is plenty of oil here in America, it's just more profitable to sell it overseas. So that's what Big Oil does. Seems counter productive to export oil for profit, then buy oil from other countries. I get it.....but I don't get it. Maybe we need another policy like used to be in place for the Alaskan pipeline. Apparently the oil from the Alaskan pipe line had to be used in the USA. Now after the "contract" was changed, we now sell most of that oil........overseas.

Is this correct Mike?

What about the Keystone XL pipeline, lets get er done!
 
Seems like I read somewhere that there is plenty of oil here in America, it's just more profitable to sell it overseas. So that's what Big Oil does. Seems counter productive to export oil for profit, then buy oil from other countries. I get it.....but I don't get it. Maybe we need another policy like used to be in place for the Alaskan pipeline. Apparently the oil from the Alaskan pipe line had to be used in the USA. Now after the "contract" was changed, we now sell most of that oil........overseas.

Is this correct Mike?

What about the Keystone XL pipeline, lets get er done!

I do not believe we can export much of our own oil other than for refining purposes to be shipped back. I do agree with part of one point you made earlier about high oil to support the expensive extraction processes, if Saudi Arabia ships oil cheap that just bubbles out of the ground, we cannot afford to do it the hard way. These articles are worth reading, the first talks about potentially lifting the oil export ban.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-18/americans-exporting-more-oil-first-time-since-70s.html

We now produce a huge majority of our energy needs.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-14/u-dot-s-dot-makes-more-oil-than-it-takes

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...independent-now-what-98985.html#ixzz2kdhhAZk7

Yes, we must get the oil and jobs the Keystone project will deliver. It may already be too late as China sants that oil.

MM
 
Well one big thing is the Keystone Pipeline and others that were rejected by the current administration. We do have lots of oil, as much as Saudi Arabia. We just don't drill it because of all the regulations and the government stepping in and saying no.

To be fair, I am for some oversight, but not the amount we have now. If we drilled for the oil in Alaska and the Midwest, we would have cheaper gas prices. Instead, we choose not to drill. I understand there are risks, but right now there is no viable alternative to fossil fuels. Ethanol was floating around as a possible alternative, but fuel is used to produce it, and it harms engines over time.

One person posted somewhere that all these smaller cars get better gas mileage, but we take advantage of that and drive more. That's very true, and we end up saving nothing. There is a riot point, and that point was almost reached a couple of years ago. I think that once you start getting about $5.80ish at the pump on land, people will get fed up. Of course, a lot of people already are tired of it.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
 
Street price in Jersey today is $3.29 for 10% ethanol (all we can get ) Jersey tax is 0.33 per gallon-some of the lowest in the nation. The amount of oil isn't the issue-it's the refinery capacity that's causing problems. Another refinery in Philly shut down recently and the price of regulations on the remaining is going WAY up!
 

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