Port engine smokin like a crematorium with two fat guys in it.

Today's episode begins with a text saying that the mechanic has a service call and will be at the boat between 9:00 and 10:00 am. I load up the wife's car with a large fan and two pull carts. A couple of hours later she calls me and says the she called the guy and he will be another 30 minutes. So he got to the boat about 10:30 or 11:00am. At 2:00 pm I receive a text from a buddy in the docks to ask me what in the hell is going on. He proceeds to tell me that my boat has be totally dismantled and the rear deck was off the boat. So I guess this guy was right. He had the Furniture out and the deck off in less then 4 hours. I guess I better not say anything and just let him do his job. I have not heard anything since then. I have sent him a couple of text messages and no response. I was thinking about making the 45 minute drive to the dock and then I decided that some things are better left unseen. I certainly didn't want to see the video from my colonoscopy a couple of years ago and that doesn't seem to be any different then my motor problems. As long as I find out that everything ends up being ok in the End (punn)

Hopefully I will here something back from him soon. If I do I will post as soon as my tears dry up. This is like waiting for test results from the STD clinic. Dining to know the results. But, to scared to pick up the phone and call or you will jinx it. Would almost trade my motor issues for a good ole fashioned dose of the clap.

Steve
 
I read the news today oh boy....got the call...here is what he found...
Engine definitely was rebuilt in 2003...dated cylinders and bearings.

Bad news is that 3 cylinders had been hot and melted the "o" rings. The blower has a leak and needs to be replaced. That is 16 hours to remove the blower and the heat exchanger. The blower is about $1100.00. The heat exchanger has to be pulled and boiled just to be sure that we don't have any leaks and it is thoroughly cleaned. We are also going to replace the fresh water pressure pump. Another $280 for the pump and a couple of hundred to get the heat exchanger cleaned. The heads are going to be sent off to be checked. They were replaced in 03 when the build was done. Hopefully they will be ok or that is another $1100.00 each. The injectors will be sent off and pressure tested. I also know they were new in 03. 150-170 hours ago.

Good news is that the main and rod bearings still looked great....almost no wear on them. Means that the crank is fine. Still going to replace all the rod and main bearings. Turbo looks good and all hoses, block and everything else still looks great.

So know we are at $16,500.00 and two weeks for all the parts. Hopefully the heads and injectors are all still good. H expects a good overhaul with no worries and full warranty. We are also going to do oil samples on the starboard engine. He also comes back at 40-50 hours and does oil samples to make sure break in is going well.

Steve
 
Good news I guess? I hope that takes care of all of your issues but you may want to pull the heat exchanger and boil it out as well. What about the other engine? Is it worth the cost to you to pull the aftercooler and boil it as well for peace of mind?
 
HUMPH said:
Good news I guess? I hope that takes care of all of your issues but you may want to pull the heat exchanger and boil it out as well. What about the other engine? Is it worth the cost to you to pull the aftercooler and boil it as well for peace of mind?
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Oh my, I saw your boat last weekend when I fueled up and thought of all the problems posted here. That's a tight slip! aNd your bow is sticking out for anything to come by and slam it. You need to tuck in Steve! Keep those house boaters unable to get you. Best of luck on your engine repairs.
 
Well this was definitely an issue that should have been caught on the engine survey that Florida Detroit Diesel did. They are claiming that my broker told them to just do a visual inspection and a sea trial. Even though they say that they did a pressure test, all gauge tests and the sea trial. My paper work shows a "engine survey". No where or at no time did anyone give me an option or let it be known that different depths of a survey were an opton. All I was told was that everything looked good and the engines were strong. They had a page of reccomendations with service cooling system, replace a hose or two,change oil and some little stuff like that. Everything on the page was done.

I would usually take this in stride and chaulk it up to a lesson. However, I was not dealing with backyard joe. I wanted a certified Detroit Diesel tech to survey and with that I should have received warning on the 6v92 issues and been given the opportunity to spend what ever they thought nessasary to do a extensive survey on the 6v92 motors. After all....they were hired to represent me as a buyers expert. I signed nothing that held the harmless or that stated this was not a full survey.

Not sure where I will go with this other then up the ladder at Detroit Diesel, if only to not let this happen to another buyer. Thankfully, I can afford to rebuild this engine and not have to sit around and wait for the money. Not that I want to spend $17-20k. I prefer to spend that on many other important things in my life. It just pisses me off.

Steve
 
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Steve500dancer said:
Well this was definitely an issue that should have been caught on the engine survey that Florida Detroit Diesel did. They are claiming that my broker told them to just do a visual inspection and a sea trial. Even though they say that they did a pressure test, all gauge tests and the sea trial. My paper work shows a "engine survey". No where or at no time did anyone give me an option or let it be known that different depths of a survey were an opton. All I was told was that everything looked good and the engines were strong. They had a page of reccomendations with service cooling system, replace a hose or two,change oil and some little stuff like that. Everything on the page was done.

I would usually take this in stride and chaulk it up to a lesson. However, I was not dealing with backyard joe. I wanted a certified Detroit Diesel tech to survey and with that I should have received warning on the 6v92 issues and been given the opportunity to spend what ever they thought nessasary to do a extensive survey on the 6v92 motors. After all....they were hired to represent me as a buyers expert. I signed nothing that held the harmless or that stated this was not a full survey.

Not sure where I will go with this other then up the ladder at Detroit Diesel, if only to not let this happen to another buyer. Thankfully, I can afford to rebuild this engine and not have to sit around and wait for the money. Not that I want to spend $17-20k. I prefer to spend that on many other important things in my life. It just pisses me off.

Steve
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I hear you brother. It may pay to consult an attorney at this point.
 
Uplate said:
Oh my, I saw your boat last weekend when I fueled up and thought of all the problems posted here. That's a tight slip! aNd your bow is sticking out for anything to come by and slam it. You need to tuck in Steve! Keep those house boaters unable to get you. Best of luck on your engine repairs.
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Hey Mike, hope your doing well...believe it or not my boat is tucked as far back as it will go. The 3" on either side of the boat when she is in the slip just makes me look good when I back her in. It also challenges me when we get a good wind blowing and 5-6 kids raising hell while I am parking. I have thought about moving to another dock that gives me more room. However, you were on "B" dock before....it would break my lake family's hearts if I moved. The kids have all grown up together on that dock and who else would fix everyone's stuff when it breaks. I have been gone for 2 weeks now and I allready miss everyone. Well almost everyone.

Steve
 
What ended up in the back of the diesel mechanics truck.

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YIKES!!!! That's a lot of parts. I recognize quite a few of them and that's scary, Mike.
 
Yea, scary is one way to describe it. The first picture shows a stainless steel seal that apparently costs $480.00 because my boat has a "special" cooler that has double tubes coming in to it instead of the much cheaper single tube. How can I be so lucky to have the double tube,,,,


Steve
 
Just got the word the the injectors all test well. However, mechanic tells me that he would replace them with the HP injectors for $174.00 each (x 6) and reminded me that if the engine fails due to a bad injector, it is not covered under warranty.

I do know that the injectors were all replaced in 2003 when Detroit re built the engine. We have approximately 150 hours on them since the build

Any thoughts here

Steve
 
Not replacing the injectors means you go bareback without warranty for one of the leading causes of Detroit Diesel failure......you got the other one.........Is there really a decision here?
 
He will warranty his work, but is excluding a failure caused by an injector. Cylinder washout is the usual result of a failed Detroit injector. Care to guess how long a washed out cylinder will run when the lube oil has been washed off by a faulty injector? Right...not long.
 
Good point Frank, what should a good injector cost? He wants to use premium injectors that are about $184.00 each.

I am seriously contemplating letting him go ahead a build the starboard engine while he has everything on the port ripped apart and the back off the boat. What's another 20k among boaters and their mechanics.

I also don't spell boat the same way most do. I spell boat BOATT

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A-ANOTHER
T-TEN
T-THOUSAND


Steve
 
Steve500dancer said:
Good point Frank, what should a good injector cost? He wants to use premium injectors that are about $184.00 each.

I am seriously contemplating letting him go ahead a build the starboard engine while he has everything on the port ripped apart and the back off the boat. What's another 20k among boaters and their mechanics.

I also don't spell boat the same way most do. I spell boat BOATT

B-BREAK
O-OUT
A-ANOTHER
T-TEN
T-THOUSAND


Steve
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don't forget to tip :wink:
 
Steve500dancer said:
Good point Frank, what should a good injector cost? He wants to use premium injectors that are about $184.00 each.

I am seriously contemplating letting him go ahead a build the starboard engine while he has everything on the port ripped apart and the back off the boat. What's another 20k among boaters and their mechanics.

I also don't spell boat the same way most do. I spell boat BOATT

B-BREAK
O-OUT
A-ANOTHER
T-TEN
T-THOUSAND

Steve
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Don't you mean:
B=BREAK
O=OUT
A=ANOTHER
T=TWENTY
T=THOUSAND


Ouch!!! Thank god I only have to deal with gassers for now!! Good Luck bro!
 
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Welcome to the Survey was Wrong...joining us again today is none other then our raining champion loser Steve500dancer...

Question - who should survey your detroit diesel engines?

Steve's answer - Florida Detroit Diesel!

Right or wrong - wrong!

Correct answer - anyone else

Next question - what can they miss on an engine survey?

Steve's Answer - nothing they are a Detroit specialists

Right or wrong - Wrong again

Correct answer - any head shop will tell you that the tubes are leaking, the valves have excessive carbon build up on seat area and the guides are worn...

Today's loser will receive a bill from the head shop for $1,500. And let's make that the daily double and multiply his loss by 2 for today's total loss of $3,000.00. This puts our losers grand total for the port side motor at just over $20,000... But he will be back tomorrow for more.

Tomorrow Steve's question will be.

- what does the radiator shop say about the heat exchanger?

Steve
 
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