Oversized load at night

Discussion in 'Trailering' started by Sundancer, May 17, 2018.

  1. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    I've never had to do this and I have all the right equipment, a set of amber/red lights to replace the orange flags at the widest point. I just can't get the magnetic bases to stick to the fiberglass! LOL!! They are great lights and I've extended the wiring for the 11 foot beam, but I can't think of a way to secure them to the side of the boat. I could duct tape them, but then I'd have an ugly mark that gets dirty quickly. I was trying to figure out some way to use the cleat to hold the light, but I'm just out of ideas. I figured someone has already done this and they can share their method! Pictures get extra bonus points!!
     
  2. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    I've never towed at night so haven't had to worry about fastening the lights. I'd probably use the duct tape and get a bottle of rubbing alcohol to take off the residue from the tape.
     
  3. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    I wouldn't tow a 11 ft beam at night. asking for problems.
     
  4. Steve S

    Steve S Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    697
    Jun 5, 2007
    Northern IL.
    2000 400 Sedan Bridge with twin CAT 3116's

    2000 340 Sundancer - SOLD!
    210 Monaco 1987 - SOLD!
    Twin Caterpillar 3116's 350 HP straight drives
    When my 340 was delivered from Tennessee, permits were needed along with a special routing due to height. The permits only allowed daylight travel, no night travel.
     
  5. Larry Sturm

    Larry Sturm Member SILVER Sponsor

    68
    Mar 26, 2017
    Chiefland, Florida
    2003 SeaRay 420 Sundancer
    2003 SeaRay 320 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA8.3-M3
    Mercruiser 350MPI
    I have a wide load permit for Florida. Your not allowed to tow a wide load after dark here.
     
  6. Espos4

    Espos4 Active Member

    409
    Jan 1, 2017
    Long Island NY
    2007 240 Sundeck
    350 MAG Bravo 3 W/DTS
    Wide load towing after dark is something you will have to investigate.

    But if you want to attach the lights, clamp a pair of large vice grips to the cleat. Use a piece of rubber hose to prevent gauging the cleat. Tape the handles so they don’t pop open. Attach the magnetic lights to the vice grips.
    An extra piece of lightweight para chord can be used as safety line just in case.
     
  7. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    Check your local regs, I know on my coast towing oversized after dark is a no no.
    On the lights, can you zip tie them to the cleats? I use large zip ties and fasten a rotating beacon to the radar arch to help draw attention to the wide load.
     
  8. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    It's allowed in Washington as long as you are under 12 feet wide (no pilot cars required) and under 14'6 in height. My only concern is getting stuck somewhere and having an alternate should I need to use it. This weekend, I can't tow after noon on Sunday or all day Monday. I can understand that in the Seattle area, but around here the traffic is not bad on Memorial Monday. I actually considered leaving at Midnight on Monday night, but we'll just pull out at 10:00 AM Sunday morning and head home. I live about 40 minutes from the launch and there is no traffic around here except during the Hanford rush hours. It's freeway the whole way and I'm familiar with the route.

    I might play around with the zip ties to see if I can figure something out. I'm not sure the crescent wrench would work due to the angle of the wrench off the cleat. It would have to be vertical or horizontal to attach the light and provide amber forward/red backward orientation with the flat magnet as the base. Just thought someone may have gone down this path and could save me some time! Getting the lights on and be stable at 65 mph or so might be a challenge.

    Thanks for your suggestions! I'm going to solder up the additional wire to stretch the distance between the lights and then I'll look into how I can hang them off the cleat, strap, rail, arch....something!!
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2018
  9. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    If you have guide poles, you could attach a length of pipe and a flat plate on top and just drop them into the guide poles. Where are you thinking of placing them? At the stern or at the widest point by the arch?
     
  10. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    Scorpio, I don't have any guide poles and I have the orange flags on the back cleats. I think the widest part of the boat is at the mid ship cleat but I doubt anybody would measure and notice. You can see the orange flags from the front and rear. I'm thinking of either a bracket or maybe attaching them to the strap that goes over the back just ahead of the back cleat when it's on the trailer. I sort of fiddled around with them and never really did come up with a good way to do it. I might have to come up with bracket that hugs the cleat or hangs from it.
     
  11. wyrman

    wyrman Member SILVER Sponsor

    839
    Jul 12, 2012
    Tri-Cities, Wa
    2007 310 Sundancer
    Twin 350's, V drives
    I can attest to the fact that where he wants to tow, there pretty much is no traffic.
    It's country style interstate.
    The law is ridiculous for this side of the state.
    We missed you out there today Jim.
     
  12. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    Yeah leaving at 10:00 AM on a Sunday morning halfway through the holiday weekend sucks! I should have just stayed until Midnight Monday night and THEN driven home!! I would have been home by 1:37 AM! It was nice to see you and your other half. Oh, and your wife too!!
     
  13. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    UPDATE!!! I finally figured out a rather elegant solution and figured I'd share it just incase someone else may need to do this as well. I opened up the plastic housing that holds the wires and the magnet and removed the magnet so I could move the wires to one side. That allowed me to drill into the plastic housing. I used a smaller 29/64's inch drill bit and went through both sides. Then on the RED side, I drilled it out to 1/2 inch or slightly larger to allow the housing to slip onto the cleat. It's smaller at the front and larger at the back and it's a nice tight fit. 20180731_195850.jpg 20180731_195839.jpg 20180731_195832.jpg It slides onto the front of my cleat perfectly! They are VERY solid and now I just need to use a small bungy to wrap around the base of the light and back to the BACK side of the cleat to hold it firmly in place!
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
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  14. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    87
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Or “GooGone” (actual, extremely effective product, in small bottle) or, even WD-40 with a rag or two and some elbow grease works great at removing adhesive residue.

    Best o’ Success (& Safety First)!

    Edit: LOL, I missed your last and solution — Way ... To ... Go!!!
     
  15. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    Great idea Jim, I like it and my use it in the future, thanks for posting!
     
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  16. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    I realize this thread is old. Another alternative would be to buy a 12 foot 2x4, cut to length, attach the lights, and secure it to the swim platform. One could even use the cheap Harbor Freight lights for this.

    MM
     
  17. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    Monaco Mike, that is another great solution. That's probably as solid as anything else and it's just a matter of securing it to the swim step. That is simplistic and elegant as well! So much so that I didn't even think about it! LOL!! With a board, I could have put it up above the cleat but still out nice and wide.

    As far as lights, I DID use the cheap harbor freight lights! LOL!! I did have to solder in about 4 feet if wire to allow the left and right light to stretch to each cleat and I had to add about 20 feet to main harness to allow it to reach the second 7 pin plug in the side of my truck bed. I figured that these will be rarely used, so they will just sit in the truck waiting for that emergency or rare time I need them!
     
  18. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    Only problem with the board idea is what to do with that long board once the boat is launched. Where do you store it?
     
  19. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

    469
    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    carry a saw and cut it down to manageable size?
     
  20. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I think I'd just lay the board on my boat trailer while I'm out boating and then I'd have it for the return trip home.
     

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