Outboards on big Searays?

Pirate Lady said:
English- explain the advantage to me
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Faster, more fuel efficient, lighter, HUUUUGE reduction in maintenance cost, easy DIY routine maintenance, 5 minute winterization instead of hours, easily adaptable to joystick, no freaking gimble bearings, u-joints or bellows (or thru-hulls, etc. if a straight inboard), shallow water capable, safer to occupants in the water when in the sandbar, simple upgrade if needed / wanted, quieter, less vibration.

Cons - harder to carry a dinghy.
 
Phil S said:
At that point since they are totally surrounded -- couldn't you just put a cover over them?
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I guess you could, but what would be the purpose?

In the olden days when Scott - Atwater - McCullough made boats, some of their outboard models had the engines shrouded. Back then they were so noisy it was an advantage.

Today, the big 4-strokes are unbelievably quiet and mounted all the back there on a separate transom, there is virtually no vibration transferred to the hull.

The advantage of leaving the engines open is the ability to check the oil,etc.
 
I hear the Formula 500 with the quad outboards is a $2.6 million dollar boat...
 
Maybe you get the monster up on plane with all 3 outboards bellowing away, then you kill and tilt up 2 to quiet the ride down and extend the range.
 
Pirate Lady said:
I don’t see how that setup allows the O/B to tilt up. Explain for me advantage to me.
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They do tilt up, I saw a video, but cannot find it now. They redesigned the swim platform for 2021, so maybe they didn’t like how it tilted up or under what conditions you could tilt.
 
GypsmJim said:
Faster, more fuel efficient, lighter, HUUUUGE reduction in maintenance cost, easy DIY routine maintenance, 5 minute winterization instead of hours, easily adaptable to joystick, no freaking gimble bearings, u-joints or bellows (or thru-hulls, etc. if a straight inboard), shallow water capable, safer to occupants in the water when in the sandbar, simple upgrade if needed / wanted, quieter, less vibration.

Cons - harder to carry a dinghy.
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Forgot about the quiet. Brother has a Suzuki 4 stroke, cannot tell when it’s idling. Easy to talk at cruise...
 
On the 325, the part of the swim platform (in front of the outboards) flips up and you can get both OBs all the way up, and still get out onto the swim platform from both sides. I'm starting to see the appeal but I think it's gonna take a while. Besides if I stick with 10-15 year-old boats then this won't be an issue for a while o_O

The best case scenario for me would be outboards that are wider/lower to the point where you could have them as true outboards, not have to see them, but they could still be raised high enough. Some of the older Montereys had a big seat/sunpad in the back -- you could fit outboards under something like that.

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I watched the boattest video on the Galeon and it had a ton of neat features but I wonder how sophisticated the boat structure and systems are? I look at the shape of the hull, and specifically around the swim platform, and it looks very simple in it's contours, lacking style and grace. I wonder if those sharp edges are due to limited technology and/or cost saving measures.
 
With 3 or 4 engines, you could stage your acceleration like a Soyuz spacecraft. Put 14" pitch props on the 2 first stage engines with 19" on the remaining. Owner/captain could tune for hyperspace and wander about muttering "jump!" as he declines into dementia while randomly firing employee/crewies and family gossips on.
 
Todd320 said:
Forgot about the quiet. Brother has a Suzuki 4 stroke, cannot tell when it’s idling. Easy to talk at cruise...
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Substituting plug-in wiring for mechanical connections to the helm would sure make it easy for the skilled forklift driver now charged with adding propulsion to the big bathtub in the parking lot outside the factory.
 
GypsmJim said:
I guess you could, but what would be the purpose?

In the olden days when Scott - Atwater - McCullough made boats, some of their outboard models had the engines shrouded. Back then they were so noisy it was an advantage.

Today, the big 4-strokes are unbelievably quiet and mounted all the back there on a separate transom, there is virtually no vibration transferred to the hull.

The advantage of leaving the engines open is the ability to check the oil,etc.
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I was thinking more like a flip-up cover.
 
Can a 37' boat with 3 monster outboards actually plane? Is there a step and/or pad on the bottom? While fully in the water, the hull remains in displacement mode and laws of hydraulics determine the top speed based on length. Creeping up would reduce the length of water displaced and make it go slower. Sound and fury with 3 rooster tails but not much action except in gas gauge unless it can plane.
 
GypsmJim said:
Faster, more fuel efficient, lighter, HUUUUGE reduction in maintenance cost, easy DIY routine maintenance, 5 minute winterization instead of hours, easily adaptable to joystick, no freaking gimble bearings, u-joints or bellows (or thru-hulls, etc. if a straight inboard), shallow water capable, safer to occupants in the water when in the sandbar, simple upgrade if needed / wanted, quieter, less vibration.

Cons - harder to carry a dinghy.
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My buddy has an auto/marine electrical shop in a commercial port-smaller fishers mainly. He helped me with the intricacies of maintaining my first I/O. I asked him who does this difficult work for commerce; does he see much of it (we are both too old to be standing on our heads to get to plugs.) He replied they all have outboards now which are serviced at the Yamaha shop by unskilled labor who plugs them into the Yamaha computer and does whatever the computer tells them to do.
This morning my Android Auto spontaneously beeped, the screen lit up and Ms. OK Google asked if I wanted to play a game. Worrisome.
 
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