One pound propane bottles

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dave - M, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. Dave - M

    Dave - M Member

    70
    Aug 29, 2018
    1990 270 Sundancer
    7.4 Mercruiser
    I am probably going to want to add a grill to my boat at some point. I think I may even have an existing mount already on the starboard side. I understand the dangers of propane and collecting in the low areas, but what do you do with 1 pound bottles when youre not grilling? Store em in the cabin? I can check to make sure theyre not leaking but that doesnt mean they wont leak an hour later. I dont want to do someting unsafe
     
  2. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_2098.JPG You could place the bottle in a small cooler or Tupperware style container with a lid and store the container in a locker above the engine room and preferably outside the cabin. We have good storage lockers under cockpit seats and next to our ice maker that would work. Maybe you do too if you have look.
     
  3. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    Get a leak-proof storage container or make one from PVC pipe. Plans abound online. I tried finding a commercial one quickly but did not find what I wanted. store it in the stern locker.

    MM
     
  4. Espos4

    Espos4 Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2017
    Long Island NY
    2007 240 Sundeck
    350 MAG Bravo 3 W/DTS
    ZZ13 has it right.

    With a 270:1 expansion ratio, There isn’t a sealed container out there that could contain a leaky cylinder. You could just be delaying the inevitable.

    Also make sure to keep the cylinders rust free and try to use them up before they do get compromised by rust.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2018
  5. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    I do not see a ZZ13 post. Many people use a sealed container to control minor leakage, not a tank rupture.

    MM
     
  6. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    The key is a sealed container with a vent to vent overboard. Think of propane as liquid water as to how it would travel.
     
  7. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    They make a storage bag that can be looped over the bow rail of, if you have one, a stern rail.

    MM
     
  8. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    I deleted it accidentally right after I posted it. I just said its heavier than air and per ABYC should be in "propane Locker" where any leakage can drain off the boat. Basically what the other two posts said.
     
  9. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    Got it. On my boat it could go in the stern locker because it drains and vents out of the boat. The OP will have to look at this and figure out where on his model he can put it. It may have to go on the rail as I said above.

    MM
     
  10. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    Probably all sage advice, but really, I just shove them in a cabinet.
     
  11. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    It is good advice. Remember boats typically do not have LP gas leak detectors like RV's do.

    MM
     
  12. Loyd Dinneen

    Loyd Dinneen Member

    304
    Jul 29, 2017
    Las Vegas
    1977 Sea ray 240 SDA cruiser w/ twin 470 mercs.
    Twin 470 Mercruisers
    If you turn off the grill at the adapter and keep the bottle connected it shouldn't leak and all you have to is connect it back on the grill when your ready to grill again.
     
  13. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

    971
    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    Dang. There you go making sense again.
     
  14. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    From my days of oil I think the vapour pressure of propane is 125PSI
     
  15. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Dickson, TN / Chattanooga, TN
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alphas
    Kohler 4kW
    You guys are way over thinking this.
     
  16. endless seas

    endless seas Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 13, 2008
    Baltimore,Maryland
    1997 450 DA
    Cat 420
    We kept ours in the shade in an outside compartment -secured.
     
  17. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    Whatever bottle is in use, has the regulator screwed in. Stored in the bag with the grill which lives in the lazerrette. Usually have 1-2 spares in a milk crate in the same area.

    Have not done anything special. This is a separate room low in the boat.

    I think the key statement here is don't let them start rusting. Use them and rotate them.
     
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  18. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Mine stays in the trunk. Thinking about considering an electric grill instead.
    Hate my little Magma and would like to replace it.
    Realized that when we’re on the hook and it comes time to get the food ready my wife has me turn on the generator anyway so she can use the microwave so it makes sense to have electric. The added bonus is we could use it on the boat at transient docks.
     
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  19. Dave - M

    Dave - M Member

    70
    Aug 29, 2018
    1990 270 Sundancer
    7.4 Mercruiser
    I like the electric grill idea. I was looking at reviews for a smokeless electric the other day. I dont have a generator though. Not a problem as long as I'm at the dock but on the hook wont work.

    I could make up a pair of pvc containers for tanks and stow them in the bow fender baskets!
     
  20. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    I think our interpretation of the goal with PVC holders was off.

    BoatUS magazine just came in and has comprehensive article on propane. The PVC containers were just to hold the tanks, not to hold leaking gas. In fact most DIY plans have a vent hole. The PVC holder still has to be in a propane gas safe area.

    MM
     

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