OFFICIAL - 450DA Owner's Thread****

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  1. H2Oload

    H2Oload Member

    39
    Jun 12, 2016
    Cincinnati OH
    1996 450 Sundancer
    Cat 3126
  2. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
  3. cdog

    cdog Member

    40
    Aug 28, 2013
    Lake Michigan, racine
    2005 353 fastech, 94 440 Express Bridge, zodiac yl340
    496HO's, cummins 6BTA's, Yamaha F40
    Thank you Frank, your educated responses are much appreciated. So far, we mostly anchor in 10ft, sandy bottom. I will look into the Fortress. It appears to be an easy swap.

    thanks
    cale
     
  4. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    The fortress is one of the few anchors that will fit or nest in the bow pulpit ea Ray used on the 44/45EB and 450DA's. It fits well and will be tight, but the Fortress will, from time to time, enter at an angle and nest crooked. The solution is to drop the anchor a foot or so.....well before the Good begins to free drop.....and pull it back in place.

    I found my FX-37 at Skipper Bud's (listed on eBay) and bought it for about 1/2 price.

    I also have a pair of FX-11's we use for stern anchors. One holds the boat in a 40 mph wind (no chain and 1/2" line), but I carry 2 beacuse we anchor in crowded conditions and sometimes need to prevent the boat from any movement when someone anchors in my hip pocket.....at least it sometimes feels like they are that close. The great thing about the FX-11's with no chain is how easily and quickly you can walk the stern anchor out to a beach or sandbar.
     
  5. Blkbird

    Blkbird Active Member

    222
    Jul 5, 2010
    Lake Lanier, GA
    1997 Sea Ray 450 Sundancer
    Twin 3126 CATS
    Leaking portholes

    Has anyone else replaced the old gaskets on the portholes, and if so, what part did you use? The nice lady in Pompanette customer service suggested we have the "classis" or the "flagship" series of portholes. Can any confirm the part number for the gasket?
     
  6. Rssll45

    Rssll45 Member GOLD Sponsor

    64
    Feb 16, 2009
    New Orleans
    1998 450DA
    Cat 3126
    You can order from Pompanette part #P100-04-retro. Gasket and screen kit $33 each.
     
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  7. mpatton

    mpatton New Member

    15
    Mar 17, 2008
    Chicago
    1997 450 DA
    3126 Cats
    Looking for prop advice. I have a '97 with 3126 cats. I had the props pulled because I hadn't done it in the 10 years I've had the boat. Was surprised to find one was badly repaired prior to owing the boat. Just want to avoid obvious mistakes (I am a master of those...) should I just replace them as they are dated 12/2006 rather than attempt a repair?
     
  8. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    I think your prop shop will be able to tell you much better. I wouldn’t think they need to be replaced, most nibral props can be repaired. Now if you replace them you would have a spare set and there is always something to say about that.
     
  9. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    I still have my original props on the boat. They are off every 3 years or so and taken into the prop shop unless there is known issue or strike of something in the water.
     
  10. H2Oload

    H2Oload Member

    39
    Jun 12, 2016
    Cincinnati OH
    1996 450 Sundancer
    Cat 3126
    I was losing some coolant at the end of the season. We believed it was the exhaust manifold. I wasn’t getting coolant in oil or visa versa. Well the manifold pressure tests fine. So that leaves the head or head gasket. Anything else I should be looking at?
     
  11. 400 EC Michigan

    400 EC Michigan New Member

    23
    Aug 21, 2010
    Lake Huron
    1997 450 Sundancer
    Garmin 7212
    Raymarine RL80CRC open array
    Caterpillar 3126
    We have a 1997 450DA with the galley to port. Wondering if anyone has replaced their mic4owave with a convection microwave. I am having difficulty finding a unit narrow and short enough to fit in the current space.
     
  12. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    274
    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer 2001
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    I just started looking at the same thing... this looked good until I saw the back side pictures. Might fit if willing to modify back of cabinet.

    https://www.cuisinart.com/products/microwaves/cmw-200/

    Anybody have the model number or overall dimensions of the original Panasonic or the cabinet dimensions?
     
  13. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    Be very careful with the idea of adding a convection microwave. That area on the 450DA has very poor ventilation. A convection oven generates a lot of heat. You might have a do-over depending upon the oven you choose due to blowing thermal fuses in the convection oven. We don't do a lot of cooking on our boat, but we have a large toaster oven we put on the cooktop for oven dutues. When not in use, it lives out of the way in the floor hatch in the salon.
     
  14. 400 EC Michigan

    400 EC Michigan New Member

    23
    Aug 21, 2010
    Lake Huron
    1997 450 Sundancer
    Garmin 7212
    Raymarine RL80CRC open array
    Caterpillar 3126
    Frank, I am also aware and concerned about the ventilation and the small opening in the 450 current microwave location (approx. 20 inches wide AND 11 1/2 inches tall). we currently use a separate toaster/convection oven as well which we store in the rear salon floor in front of the shower sump as well. Just looking at consolidating equipment and hoping someone has found a unit which would work in the current opening. I do not want to redo cabinetry now or with a potential heat/fire issue.
     
  15. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    274
    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer 2001
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    Always a concern, would have to have a bult in rating/capability for sure.
     
  16. Rssll45

    Rssll45 Member GOLD Sponsor

    64
    Feb 16, 2009
    New Orleans
    1998 450DA
    Cat 3126
    Has anyone replaced the water heater? Looks like a chore to get it out. Is there anything new taking the place of the Atwood 11 gal heater on newer boats? I have a very small amount of water seeping out under the heater-not sure it's leaking but don't know where else it could be coming from. All hose connections are tight.
     
  17. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's
    Following as I'm sure I'll be here someday...
     
  18. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    Shouldn’t be a big deal if you remove the stbd exhaust tube from the front and side of the engine then disconnect the water heater forward and across in front of the engine then aft to the engine hatch, up and out.

    The change I would make is to go with a stainless steel unit rather than the OEM painted steel version.
     
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  19. Rssll45

    Rssll45 Member GOLD Sponsor

    64
    Feb 16, 2009
    New Orleans
    1998 450DA
    Cat 3126
    Thanks Frank. That's the only place I see that it can be removed. I think Atwood makes a stainless model although I haven't found it as yet.
     
  20. The Bill Collector

    The Bill Collector Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tacoma, WA
    450 Sundancer
    3126 Cat's

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