OFFICIAL 390/40 Motor Yacht Thread

[Robf]

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I know you will love the boat with all the room and comforts of home! The bridge AC is the best! Best of luck for a great season!
Rob

The sea trial was a success!

The boat ran well, and the electronics and other systems seemed to be in good operating order. I was very pleased with the conditions (airflow, temperature, etc.) and visibility inside the helm area while running at cruising speed. I was also pleased with the performance and handling characteristics of the 480CE engines and MY hull. She was a little sportier to run than I imagined, which was a very pleasant surprise. I really like the balance between the bridge heigh, aft position, visibility and stability. It felt like a jacked up Sundancer, but not jacked up as high as a fly or sedan, so there was less of the rolling or pendulum feeling at the helm.

We have authorized the surveys to proceed ASAP, and barring any unexpected surprises, we should be motor yachting soon after July 4th!

 

[TechDoc]

Has anyone installed any of the artificial teak deck products on their MY 390/40? Even though we are still waiting for the survey results, the Admiral has gotten ahead of herself a bit, and is already looking for things to do to the boat! I know there are a bunch of threads out there on the topic, but I am specifically interested in experience with this model, and if any of the manufacturers have templates ready to go. And any opinions on the various material choices (Flexiteek, SeaDeck, NuTeak, etc...) are also welcome.

Thanks in advance.

 

[alnav]

I have CoolTeak and love it. I had the swim platform and steps done along with the entire cockpit. Travis Tea at TT Custom Marine (http://www.ttcustommarine.com) did the decking and he has a 390/40 MY template. His local installer put it in and insisted on measuring anyway. I see from the website that Travis has an installer local to San Diego.

 

[TechDoc]

Thank you Al.

TT Custom Marine comes up a lot in these forums, so I may have to reach out to them once the boat is ours. It sounds like you did exactly the areas we are thinking about. If you don't mind me asking, about how much would a similar installation cost (that's the most polite way I could think of asking you how much it set you back).

Thanks again!

 

[alnav]

Thank you Al.

TT Custom Marine comes up a lot in these forums, so I may have to reach out to them once the boat is ours. It sounds like you did exactly the areas we are thinking about. If you don't mind me asking, about how much would a similar installation cost (that's the most polite way I could think of asking you how much it set you back).

Thanks again!

The cost was about $3500.

 

[TechDoc]

The cost was about $3500.

Thank you Al, that is a good reference point. I will definitely call TT when I'm ready to get started.

I just need to get my survey results, and get the boat in my possession!

 

[TechDoc]

I have one question for the experts in Club Sea Ray...

Both surveys are now complete, and the hull/systems survey report is in my hands. The engine/generator survey report should be ready next week, after the lab tests on the oil comes back. There were a handful of findings that will need attention, and I'm expecting the engine survey will add a few more. The hull was all good, so that was a big relief. Once we get the final list of issues, I guess there will be a last round of negotiations with the seller.

The question: Is it better to negotiate a price reduction that will cover the expected costs of the needed repairs, take delivery of the boat, and then get everything done myself? Or is it better to get the seller to get everything fixed before I close and take delivery?

I am leaning towards the former. I am assuming that if the seller does the repairs, then I will need to arrange for another survey, to validate the work. That is more time and more money. If I take a price reduction and pay for the work myself, I can potentially add any additional work and/or maintenance I want to get done at the same time. I would think the only time you'd want the seller to fix something before you take delivery is if it's a showstopper issue (significant hull, engine or safety problem that makes the boat un-seaworthy).

Thanks in advance for the guidance.

 

[480ces]

I have one question for the experts in Club Sea Ray...

Both surveys are now complete, and the hull/systems survey report is in my hands. The engine/generator survey report should be ready next week, after the lab tests on the oil comes back. There were a handful of findings that will need attention, and I'm expecting the engine survey will add a few more. The hull was all good, so that was a big relief. Once we get the final list of issues, I guess there will be a last round of negotiations with the seller.

The question: Is it better to negotiate a price reduction that will cover the expected costs of the needed repairs, take delivery of the boat, and then get everything done myself? Or is it better to get the seller to get everything fixed before I close and take delivery?

I am leaning towards the former. I am assuming that if the seller does the repairs, then I will need to arrange for another survey, to validate the work. That is more time and more money. If I take a price reduction and pay for the work myself, I can potentially add any additional work and/or maintenance I want to get done at the same time. I would think the only time you'd want the seller to fix something before you take delivery is if it's a showstopper issue (significant hull, engine or safety problem that makes the boat un-seaworthy).

Thanks in advance for the guidance.

To me it depends on the nature of the issues and how well the cost can be estimated.

Somthing like windshield seals, you know what it's going to cost AND you shouldn't see surprises or overruns.

Somthing like raw-water service could easily turn into new after-coolers, heat exchangers and gear coolers and add 15k in unexpected costs.

The other school of through is how well will the service be done AND are you close enough to the servicing marina to bring it back if issues come up later.

What came up on the survey? (PM me or email me if you don't want to discuss in public)

 

[Robf]

I actually did both. I identified things I wanted the seller to fix that I thought were necessary to make the boat worth the negotiated price, such as the windshield seals, engine hoses that were degraded, the captain seat adjustment, and a non working spotlight. I offered to do the bottom paint, windshield wiper replacement, and impellers in engine and generator. The selling broker made sure all repairs were done, but I reviewed when I picked up the boat prior to handing over the check. I don't think there is a hard fast rule. Sellers may prefer to give you a fixed reduction and let you deal with it. Good luck on getting it done!
Rob


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[Robf]

Okay, 390/40 owners, has anyone replaced the two round air vents on the outside of the boat where the bilge blowers exit? The vanes are broke out on both vent covers and I ordered new ones, however, it appears that you must remove the entire outside section of the boat to access the backside of the vent in order to remove and reinstall the blower hosing. Is this correct, or is there an easier way that I am missing? Appears the entire venting assembly is one integrated plastic piece that comes out with several screws attaching to the hull. My concern is that I will then have to recaulk this entire piece to reseal. Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance.
Rob

 

[480ces]

Okay, 390/40 owners, has anyone replaced the two round air vents on the outside of the boat where the bilge blowers exit? The vanes are broke out on both vent covers and I ordered new ones, however, it appears that you must remove the entire outside section of the boat to access the backside of the vent in order to remove and reinstall the blower hosing. Is this correct, or is there an easier way that I am missing? Appears the entire venting assembly is one integrated plastic piece that comes out with several screws attaching to the hull. My concern is that I will then have to recaulk this entire piece to reseal. Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance.
Rob

Got a photo? I'm thinking this part of the engine room ventilation intakes below the rub-rail?

I wouldn't hesitate to remove it, I plan to do mine in the spring or fall.

This is one of the few areas that can allow water into the cored hullsides, its worth pulling them every 10 years (or more often if you're south) to thoroughly reseal.

The other vent's (Heads, Kitchen, Dryer) should be secure with push in clips only...

 

[Robf]

Here is the side I am talking about. It appears it is one large section that must be removed just to replace the two small round bilge vents.


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[Diaster]

Hello all, new member here! Just closed on a 2005 in like new condition. Broker and surveyor rated it a 10. Must do list... Change out a hose! LOL engine hours 156, gasser. Engine survey, traveled tip top. Bilge tight no leaks, cockpit ac, washer/drier, full electronics. Carpet looks new. Ice maker needs some work and in the process of fixing it. Question... Does anyone know what bulb type is in the salon overhead. I want to go led. The cockpit will have 2 pure white led and 4 blue led. Those are 1142. But I need salon over head style and cockpit floor courtesy lamps. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Robf]

Everyone, have you had issues with the charging system set up on the 390 MY, and has anyone changed it? I took my family to spend the afternoon at a city levee while we toured town and had a late lunch. When we returned to the boat, we attempted to fire the generator only to find the batteries dead! At this time, I assumed the generator would be on its own battery, but have since found that the generator starts off the port bank. A bad set up in my mind as the refrigerators drained the port bank. Fortunately I was able to fire the starboard engine and use the emergency start to fire the port engine. In my mind the generator should always have its own isolated starting battery. Has anyone changed the setup on their 390/40?
Thanks, Rob

 

[TechDoc]

Well...after lots of back and forth, we have (finally) signed the purchase agreement for the 2005 390MY, and should close on Friday!

Thanks to all who offered advice and information. I'm so glad I found this forum before I began looking. It has been a most valuable resource throughout the search, survey and negotiation process. I hope to stay active and contribute here for many years as a happy Sea Ray family member

 

[Robf]

Congratulations on your new purchase! I am sure you will be extremely happy with this choice as I am with the 390! It is a great boat!
Rob

Well...after lots of back and forth, we have (finally) signed the purchase agreement for the 2005 390MY, and should close on Friday!

Thanks to all who offered advice and information. I'm so glad I found this forum before I began looking. It has been a most valuable resource throughout the search, survey and negotiation process. I hope to stay active and contribute here for many years as a happy Sea Ray family member

 

[HUMPH]

Congrats!

 

[ksweet88]

TechDoc, I just recently launched my 390MY (was sidelined by leaking fuel tanks this summer)... and it just had the artificial teak put on the swim platform and steps.. I LOVE it already... I am attaching a few photos the shop took when they were working on my boat.

 

[ksweet88]

To anyone that was following my fuel tank saga... Finally I am back in the water. Many delays later I have two brand new tanks. In the end, no one was able to discern a "reason"... it appeared as if something from inside the tank somehow punctured through which makes no sense.. and it happened to both tanks which is highly strange. The old tanks were cut into thirds to get out through the cabin entrance and the new tanks were re-engineered and manufacturer to be slightly less wide so that they would fir through the cabin entrance without dis-assembling the cockpit (which would have sidelined me for the whole season). The shop was clever in how they lifted the engines and moved them aside. Some photos from the work attached. Pray you never have this same experience with this boat.. it is a bear to change tanks!

 

[TechDoc]

TechDoc, I just recently launched my 390MY (was sidelined by leaking fuel tanks this summer)... and it just had the artificial teak put on the swim platform and steps.. I LOVE it already... I am attaching a few photos the shop took when they were working on my boat.

Thank you!

Out of curiosity, which artificial teak product did you choose. And if you don't mind me asking, what did it cost to do the swim platform and steps? The pictures look great.