Official 290 Sundancer Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Cruisers' started by biggerboatitis, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. JimmyDubai

    JimmyDubai Member

    349
    Oct 13, 2015
    Dubai, UAE
    Sundancer 290 1996, one big block Mercruiser 7.4 LT
    Simrad Go9 XSE + 3G radar
    One, Mercruiser 7.4 V8, 310 HP
    Good suggestion!. I believe I had the same issue when I bought Jaika I.... gear lube oil...

    Thanks
     
  2. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Thanks for the advice...I'll try to investigate further this weekend. I'm planning on having the boat pulled out of the water in a month or so for bottom paint, and the marina will be doing outdrive work, so if I can't figure it out by then, I'm sure they can tell me then...just didn't know how urgent this problem was (I've given up any hopes of taking it out before spring).

    still looking for any recommendation on spark plugs for the 5.0 MPI if you all have any...I just can't make sense of all the varying numbers and cost difference of certain $3-$16 a piece plugs...
     
  3. blu-ray

    blu-ray Member

    55
    Nov 17, 2013
    Augusta GA
    07 / 290 Sundancer, ( Sapphire blue hull) lowrance HDS-7 gen 2, 3g broadband radar/ structure scan
    Twin 5.0 MPI Bravo 3's
    I hope you didn't actually pay tis surveyor?!?!?! mostly oil, trim probs, etc.
     
  4. Groucho

    Groucho Active Member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Albany/Lake George NY
    2006 290 DA
    496 B111

    I did my system a few years ago. A friend has custom stereo shop. Part of the issue with the speakers in the arch is that the arch is basically hollow. He installed Dynamat and t sounded much better. The addition of a sub is a must as well as a good amp.
     
  5. Medin

    Medin Member

    60
    Aug 29, 2011
    Sweden, Stockholm
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Mercruiser 4.3 V6 MPI / Bravo III Drives
    The boat is in the water. Starting the season with oil leakage on one engine and dropping water from the cable to Mercathode. So tomorrow i'm off to the shipyard to pick up the boat again and get it fixed. They will the engine out and fix the oil leak. Not the start of the season I had mind :/
     
  6. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    I think I might have the same problem, did you solve this issue? I just flushed my water lines with bleach for the third time because the smell was horrible. It defiantly improved, but today I lifted the floor panel and I have standing water in that bilge (with floating white "stuff"). I have no idea what to look at, but assume when I turn the bilge pump button on, it should be pumping this water out, correct? I also have a plastic box in this area. The smell is terrible, so any advice is appreciated.
     
  7. JimmyDubai

    JimmyDubai Member

    349
    Oct 13, 2015
    Dubai, UAE
    Sundancer 290 1996, one big block Mercruiser 7.4 LT
    Simrad Go9 XSE + 3G radar
    One, Mercruiser 7.4 V8, 310 HP
    I had to live the same experience when I got my new to me 290. You need to start by checking the lines going to the plastic box. Disconnect each one of them, have someone pouring water from the A/C drainage pan and see if the water come out at the other end (in my case it was clogged up and had to blow through it to clean it?. Do the same from the shower. Once they are clean, re insert them back to the box and glue them in place. Check manually if the pump level switch is also working. It was a very satisfying job once you see that the system is working and you see flow over the hull when it is working.
     
  8. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Thanks for the reply, will give it a go this weekend once I'm back at the boat.
     
  9. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
    If you're referring to the sump pump box under the floor in the cabin then those things are notorious for having the float getting stuck and over flowing the box. I do not think that bilge pump is controlled by the manual switch. Instead, I think it is only automatic and that compartment has to be pretty full before it kicks on. You can manually kick it on to get most of the water out but shop vac'ing it dry is the way to go. Then pull the pump from the sump box and clean it. I even put wire connectors on mine so I could take it out and clean it easy. Keeping that box clean is critical. Be warned though, when removing the pump water will back flow into the box from the line if the one way valve comes out.
     
  10. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Perfect... my plan was exactly that - to shop vac it all out. I've emptied the water in the boat so should be good to go.

    Slowly but but surely getting everything worked out on this boat. New bottom paint and trim issues fixed. I did a full tune up myself (proud of that, I don't consider myself very mechanically sound).

    I have had a vey loud alarm go off twice but have no idea what it is. The first time, nothing was on and it went off when I opened the door. The second time it was five minutes into a journey. Just really loud, then shuts off after ten minutes. No faults on gauges. Paperwork and stickers on the bot suggest a Poseidon Alarm was installed but I tore apart the cabin and didn't find anything. There is a mechanism on the door with two wires so it's gotta be somewhere or previous owner removed it.

    Also, my fire extinguisher in the bilge area completely rusted through. Any ideas where to buy one of these? It Alamo looks like it was fabricated by someone.
     
  11. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
    The alarm could have been that cabin bilge alarm. If I recall it will sound the alarm and pump out the water so maybe you didn't notice how high it was and it took getting on plan to trip it.
     
  12. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    That would definitely make sense...thank goodness you are here to explain all this to me! Unfortunately my first experience with a marina has been less than satisfying...so this forum is all I have to be able to do as much as I can myself!
     
  13. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    I cleaned the box (disgusting slime throughout) the best I could. I refilled it with water and it overfilled again. I'm assuming the little toggle on the white pump should active it, and when I tried doing so, nothing happened. Does this mean I have a bad pump? Where can I get another?

    is this box only for shower drainage?

    http://tinypic.com/r/156u3w0/9
     
  14. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
    Sounds like the pump float is shot. If it is the same as mine there is a float on the bottom that turns it on. Usually activated with about an inch of water in the box. A new pump should solve your issues.
     
  15. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
    Sorry just saw pic. That is a different pump and sump box than I had. You can even replace the whole box if you want which is what I did because mine was cracked. But you should be able to pull that pump and get a new one.
     
  16. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Ok, thanks Cincy!
     
  17. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Sorry.....probably another stupid question... my boat has a Tracvision KVH M1 on the arch. With football season approaching, I'm considering getting service so I can watch games on the boat. Do I just call Direct TV, or do I need to find a local person/service to give me this capability? How much shoiuld I expect to pay for Direct TV on my boat?
     
  18. JC3

    JC3 Active Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Kentucky
    N/A
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    Off topic some but did you get your sump pump to work? Sounded like the float switch to me. If so, remove the float switch and clean it real good. Then try it by temp rewiring it and then moving the white float switch upwards. If you hear your pump turn on then it was just a gunked up connection on the float switch. If not, replace the float switch and repeat. If the pump does not turn on you will have to replace the pump. At least that's how I did it which could be totally wrong. Good luck, JC
     
  19. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    Ive been gone all week, but heading to the boat today to remove the pump and investigate further, so we shall see...
     
  20. CaneCorso

    CaneCorso Member

    56
    Jan 5, 2017
    Chattanooga, TN
    2006 Sea Ray 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.0L MPI w/Bravo IIIs
    OK, so I really screwed things up now. My wife and I headed out of the marina and my plan was to work on everything while anchored up somewhere. Well, I got up to plane and the alarm started sounding. Could not figure out what was setting it off, checked the cabin bilge and the shower sump box was overflowed, but not much water outside of it.
    I opened the hatch to check the bilge, and noticed a bunch of water in the bilge. Had no idea what was happening, but finally saw a hose at the back of the starboard engine spewing water everywhere. I saw the clamp was rusted through and managed to get the hose back on so water would stop flooding my bilge. The alarm was still going off, and in my haste I remembered reading about the cabin water bilge alarm. So, my brilliant idea was to disconnect all three connectors I found in the cabin bilge. I did not label them or anything, so now I have no idea which one goes where. I tried plug-n-play, and one turned on the automatic pump outside the shower box and one triggered the alarm. In this process, I guess I screwed up the aft bilge, because the bilge pump would not come on. I found the circuit breaker underneath the portside seats on the deck, but it would not stay when I went to turn in back to on. I then found the fuse box in the bilge and noticed the bilge pump was tripped. I pushed the button, and then hit the bilge button on the helm and the light turned on momentarily, but only for a split second.
    I now have both circuit breakers permanently tripped. I have no idea which connector goes where in the cabin bilge. I don’t even know if the bilge pump in the engine compartment is related to this issue or not. Here’s my questions:

    1. Looks like I have one connector with solid black and solid brown. Another one is solid black and brown with a yellow line. The other is the same only with an orange line. These are coming out of the front of the cabin bilge. Any idea which one goes to which connector on the pumps? I’m sorry but my electrical expertise is close to zero. Is it best I just ask the marina to troubleshoot?

    2. The water in the cabin bilge is disgusting. Is it possible for “dirty water” to come back in from the waste tank?

    3. The engine bilge pump is brand new replaced a month ago by the marina. Is it possible its bad already? I had some gear oil leaking and its pretty dirty in my bilge (haven’t got around to cleaning it yet).

    4. The pump in the shower box doesn’t come on at all…I am going to replace both the pump and float once I figure out I have the right connections again. Where is the fuse for these? Again, I mam not a wire guy, but it looks like the wires are spliced and possibly a fuse in the wire line.

    Any help is appreciated….it never ends!

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