Official 280 Sundancer Thread

Curtiss said:
Do you mean "just don't trim them too high" with the trailer up button, or when I change them out?
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I think what he meant was not to accidently run the boat with the drive trimmed higher than where it would normally stop (prior to engaging trailer feature). Running the boat with the drive too high can damage the internal gears. The trim limit switch usually stops you from going past the danger point, but since you are using the trailer feature to raise the drive, you may unintentionally go past where the trim limit would kicks in and stop you. It can be an expensive mistake.
 
JimFromMD said:
I think what he meant was not to accidently run the boat with the drive trimmed higher than where it would normally stop (prior to engaging trailer feature). Running the boat with the drive too high can damage the internal gears. The trim limit switch usually stops you from going past the danger point, but since you are using the trailer feature to raise the drive, you may unintentionally go past where the trim limit would kicks in and stop you. It can be an expensive mistake.
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Correct.

Bennett
 
Got it, thanks. I'm beginning to think it's a switch issue at the throttle. I'm praying it's not a sensor issue on the outdrives.............again both at the same time?
 
Curtiss said:
Got it, thanks. I'm beginning to think it's a switch issue at the throttle. I'm praying it's not a sensor issue on the outdrives.............again both at the same time?
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In my limited experience, the trim sender on the outdrive goes bad more often than the switch at the helm. Thankfully they are on the outside of the outdrive where they are more "easily" accessible.
 
JimFromMD said:
In my limited experience, the trim sender on the outdrive goes bad more often than the switch at the helm. Thankfully they are on the outside of the outdrive where they are more "easily" accessible.
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Agree it's more likely to be the limit switch. You can override the switch with the trailer up toggle, which it sounds like you're doing already. You can simply test the senders with an ohm meter and a helper. Pick up the Clymer Mercruiser service manual it simply outlines the procedure.
 
Seevee said:
First, I don't believe the 280 is a yacht. I believe they start in the 31 foot area. And second, there's limits on all boats, vehicles, cars, trucks, and planes.

Think I found the placard for the 280, limit to 10 people, but not sure of the year.
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Yacht certification starts at 5GT, not length. I would agree nobody would call a 280DA a yacht but for USCG purposes it qualifies.
 
Chrisvr6 said:
I think different engine mounts might solve this?
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LOL maybe yes but I'm not pulling the motors...would be interested to learn of the outcome if you make that investment though
 
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cp_71 said:
Yacht certification starts at 5GT, not length. I would agree nobody would call a 280DA a yacht but for USCG purposes it qualifies.
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Agree. Although most of us here would not consider a 280DA a yacht, those who don't own a boat, or don't get on the water much, would consider it a yacht. I remember when we first got our 280DA and invited some friends out for a cruise...their jaws dropped at the size of our boat. When we said we upgraded from our 240SD they assumed it was another bow rider. To them, the 280 was a yacht. It's all a matter of perspective.
 
Guys,

In this context the term "yacht" is used as a technical classification and not a market description. It comes down to different regulatory requirements for yachts than boats. Most of this is stuff you don't see such as the construction methods and safety factors. Although I believe the living space design, galley, head, sleeping areas etc are more defined under the yacht rules than boat rules. The most visible thing the consumer sees is that a yacht does not have the same ID plate as a boat. Boats have plates that list maximum number of people and gear and Max horsepower. Yachts don't have this.

Boat builders have to decide at what point their product will be built to boat standards and at what point they transition to yacht standards. The 280 is at the lower end of the scale. I'm not sure where Sea Ray Drew the line between boat and yacht. The 280 is certainly classified as a yacht, whether the 240-270s are I don't know.

Henry


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Henry Boyd said:
Guys,

In this context the term "yacht" is used as a technical classification and not a market description. It comes down to different regulatory requirements for yachts than boats. Most of this is stuff you don't see such as the construction methods and safety factors. Although I believe the living space design, galley, head, sleeping areas etc are more defined under the yacht rules than boat rules. The most visible thing the consumer sees is that a yacht does not have the same ID plate as a boat. Boats have plates that list maximum number of people and gear and Max horsepower. Yachts don't have this.

Boat builders have to decide at what point their product will be built to boat standards and at what point they transition to yacht standards. The 280 is at the lower end of the scale. I'm not sure where Sea Ray Drew the line between boat and yacht. The 280 is certainly classified as a yacht, whether the 240-270s are I don't know.

Henry


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My 260 does not have the ID plate that you speak of.

Bennett
 
Henry Boyd said:
Guys,

In this context the term "yacht" is used as a technical classification and not a market description. It comes down to different regulatory requirements for yachts than boats. Most of this is stuff you don't see such as the construction methods and safety factors. Although I believe the living space design, galley, head, sleeping areas etc are more defined under the yacht rules than boat rules. The most visible thing the consumer sees is that a yacht does not have the same ID plate as a boat. Boats have plates that list maximum number of people and gear and Max horsepower. Yachts don't have this.

Boat builders have to decide at what point their product will be built to boat standards and at what point they transition to yacht standards. The 280 is at the lower end of the scale. I'm not sure where Sea Ray Drew the line between boat and yacht. The 280 is certainly classified as a yacht, whether the 240-270s are I don't know.

Henry


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In the federal regs it looks to me like anything non-commercial is a boat regardless of size.

NMMA certification means that your Sea Ray Boat has been judged by the National Marine Manufacturers Association to be in compliance with applicable federal regulations and American Boat and Yacht Council standards.

My diesel 420DA is ‘yacht certified’ but so was my gas 270 Sundeck. Given that, it appears the word ‘yacht’ in NMMA‘s ‘yacht certified’ is dressing, they could say 'This Boat is Certified'
 
Good evening
I am new 280 owner and in love. Mine is the 1989 with twin 5.7s, have been searching for new thottle control. I searched this thread as well as google. Seems pretty vague on what fits what.
Looking to go back close to what it came with.
Thank you in advance
 
All, looking for a 4 in 1 engine gauge for a 280 Sundancer, 2003, MPI. Would suspect these are used on a lot of boats, Sea Ray and others.

Anyone got a good source for these? Or other options that easily replace these?

SeaRay PN: 1540905 GAUGE, TELE 4/1 SR-5"8OPSI,220F,V,TRIM PT NXG

(also posted in clubsearay forum)
 
I have an 02 with the ruffled cabin seating vinyl. Has anyone changed theirs over to the more modern smooth stuff?
 
I have a button just to the right of my "cigarette lighter" charger under the steering wheel. It's not on any sea rsy manuals I can find. It looks like a recessed toggle pin thst just pushes in. No label. Any ideas ? 2004 280 sundancer
 
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