Official 19SPX/21SPX/SPX190/SPX210 Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Boats' started by fg3, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    You’re very fortunate (and BriDog gracious) and it appears I may have gotten “caught up in the moment” (and perhaps I should have been more DIY-pioneering in going through the self-patterning process for our 2018 19SPX, the way BriDog self-patterned his earlier and bigger sport boat). But, to be honest, I tend to be such a perfectionist, I fear doing my own patterns would’ve resulted in either me screwing It up or it taking forever (red face).

    I’m not sure how SD works it — either ‘authorizing’ reps regionally or ‘sharing’ patterns amongst them but, the gent local to us tells us we are either “his” first 2018 19SPX or “SD’s” first as he is charging us $200 for “scanning” and $200 in labor, BEFORE he even starts cutting or installing material.

    (We had been waiting in the hopes he could lay his hands on existing patterns for a 2018 19SPX as it would’ve saved us some dinero; however; it appears there have been some changes in the cockpit, from 2017 and I guess someone needs to “be first” with a 2018 19SPX ...

    Anyhoo, on the phone yesterday he said we’re looking at between $800 and $1,000 for the swim deck and other elevated surfaces and probably another $800-$900 for the cockpit deck.

    That was yesterday and we first reached out in early August, iirc and thus, an initial and primary reason we changed our minds and backed off getting the entire cockpit deck done in faux teal was the “nebulous air” in getting firm, let alone written, estimates, up front.

    As it stands, we’re going to take delivery of the boat with “all white” decking throughout (no carpet or floor matting) and we can have the SD rep come to our place and install the faux teak everywhere but the cockpit floor/deck at our dock, sometime in the next few weeks.

    I’m a firm believer that “everything happens for a reason” and I am very comfortable with the fact we can easily clean and maintain the exposed fiberglass cockpit deck while we consider other options in a more leisurely (less hurried) fashion OR, leave it that way (the friendly advice of lots of other boat owners with 50+ years of sport boating behind them).

    One thing I have to say is that forums like these and threads like this one are absolutely priceless so,

    Thanks to everyone contributing!
     
  2. SCJeep

    SCJeep Member

    32
    May 3, 2016
    Upstate, SC
    2016 21 SPX
    4.3 MPI, Alpha One
    The flooring in my 21 SPX is the Infinity Woven as seen in the photo. It is a nice flooring but I actually wish it had come without the snap in woven flooring. I prefer the SeaDek and would have templated the entire cockpit had it not come on my boat already. My neighbor and boating colleague has SeaDek installed on his entire cockpit of his Yamaha jet boat and it has held up great, I would have no reservations about installing the SeaDek in the entire boat. I get lots of compliments out on the lake about the interior and SeaDek additions. I think the boat should have come this way from SR.

    My boat does have the Sahara interior that comes from the Select package.
     
  3. Bridog

    Bridog Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    Previous 220SD, 260DA, 300DA
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    Testing...Just trying to post some pics without them showing upside down, or small.
     

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  4. Bridog

    Bridog Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    Previous 220SD, 260DA, 300DA
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    Great, now they're just side ways... ugh. Anyway
    ThosrSen, for reference my Infinity looks to be the same as SCJeep and I have the Cognac Select interior. The Infinity is a better option than the carpet but it does get hot. Much hotter than the SeaDek. If money wasn't an option I would also get all SeaDek as flooring. The only downside I've found with the SeaDek is it captures sand in the dark/black "grout" sections. Other than that it's great and very comfortable on the feet.
     
  5. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Wow, Bri, that interior IS superb! Well, after just 3 days, the bare non-slip was grunged up enough from 4 adults’ bare feet that the Admiral announced (while scrubbing the deck), “THIS (bare fiberglass) isn’t going to work....”

    We can afford Sea Deck across the interior flooring; however; we both eschew the idea of even semi-permanently adhering ANY product to the actual deck — what would ideal would be something without the snaps of the factory (or any) metal snap-in offering; the all-around durability (and visual appeal) of the Sea Deck; but, easily removable for major cleanups ...

    I see Corinthian has a “snap-less” line of floor coverings but, their website isn’t quite as interactive enough to confirm whether or not their faux teak is available in the snap-less version (at least not on my mobile device, a phone call will be in order once I return to town).

    I guess it wouldn’t surprise me to learn there are forward-thinking principals at SeaDek right now - “plotting” and working on a secure-but-removable version of their 6mm (or “thinner,” maybe pvc-enhanced?) system, for some horizontal areas ...

    Ha-ha, we’ll get it, I’m sure but, in the mean time;

    “necessity is the Mother of Invention,” and who here would argue, nothing says necessity like a distinguished Admiral scrubbing a deck and opining, “Well, this just ISN’T going to work ...! :)
     
  6. Tom W

    Tom W New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2017
    Lakeland florida
    Boatless
    Boatless
    Hi my name is Tom and I'm new to this club and forum as you can see. I'm considering purchasing a 190 SPX and am looking for any input. Especially on motor choice, any pros or cons would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to your responses..
     
  7. Tom W

    Tom W New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2017
    Lakeland florida
    Boatless
    Boatless
    If it helps I live in central Florida and plan to trailer and use in both salt and fresh water.
     
  8. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Hi, Tom, WELCOME! We based a LOT of our decision on our neighbor’s year 2000 19-footer — they use it a lot and it looks very, VERY good so, that gave us an idea as to the quality, fit and finish of the Sea Ray over so many other boats.

    Now, less than 10-hours on our boat and we’ve already had two (2) air voids pop up and, for better or worse, it was easier to have a tech come to us (THANK YOU AGAIN fellow Club Sea Ray member, Aaronpav!!!) than it was to trailer the brand new boat back to the dealer 90-minutes away and wait weeks to get it back.

    We joke the boat is my wife’s (it is) and the OUTBOARD motor is mine; dumb luck on our part as Sea Ray matches the Mercury 4-strokes up to their boats and ours is the 150 and the best surprise for me in this whole thing has been how DIY-friendly the current Merc 4-strokes are (seriously, just do the basic maintenance on these motors and they’ll last and it is really nice not to have to go through the hassle of taking the boat back and forth so someone else can do the fluids filters sparks changes, etc,

    (Outboard was mandatory for us as, with our relatively mild winters, we never intend to winterize a boat again, if we can help it. Example: earlier this week (December 20,2017) it was 70^F so, splash ‘er we did!)


    We were going to pay up for the Merc 200 but, hindsight shows we spent that extra $ more wisely on a WaveRunner VXR which, when I get done with it, will tap 67-70mph easily depending upon how full fuel tank is, etc. (I prefer to go faster than the Admiral - I decided at a young age if I can’t go in my sleep I want it to be in as quick and as messy a “splat” as possible! :)

    If you have any more-specific questions the good folks here are wayyyy more knowledgeable than I and will definitely take care, ya.

    Best o’ Success and, Happy Huntin’ to ya’s!
     

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  9. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Member

    679
    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2005 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer, 2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    496 Mercruisers with Bravo IIIs, Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    If I was in Florida with salt water I would go with the outboard power. I love the Merc 150 d because of the ease of maintenance. It has plenty of power and is so quiet half the time at idle i forgot I left it running.
     
  10. Bridog

    Bridog Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    Previous 220SD, 260DA, 300DA
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    Welcome to CSR Tom W. If I was going with an outboard 2018 SPX I would spend the 2k and option it with the 150 instead of the now standard 115. The 200 hp outboard was never an option on the 190 SPX. It is on the 210. Having owed sterndrives for 30 years I was extremely happy to see SR finally offer outboard options. (although it seems a little too late) See the Brunswick selling SR thread.
     
  11. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    BriDog, your right (of course) what we didn’t pay up for was a 210 (initially, I had my heart set on a 200hp) but, everyone assures me we will have no problem pulling an old school skier (me) or multiple tubes (adult children and grandchildren with the 150hp on our SPX-190.

    Good point on choosing (paying for) the 150 over the std 115
     
  12. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Member

    679
    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2005 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer, 2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    496 Mercruisers with Bravo IIIs, Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    I have pulled a skier out of the water with 5 adults and 4 kids in the boat with very little struggle. Probably wouldn’t want to have someone new learning to ski try it with that many people on board but it will pull them up just fine. I did go to a 4 blade prop and dropped a pitch knowing that I would be using the boat mostly for water sports so that may contribute a little too. It is a torquey motor for a 4cyl outboard. I defiantly would opt for it over a 115hp for $2000. It has been a great bot so far. The only problem I have had is a little cracking in the gel coat in the lower corner of the transom where the gunnel tapers to the swim platform and the companion seat base is a weak link as well.
     
  13. Tom W

    Tom W New Member

    6
    Dec 22, 2017
    Lakeland florida
    Boatless
    Boatless
    Thank you for your reply
    I was thinking the same if I go on I'll pony up for the 150. Question though when you had your blisters repaired did the warranty cover it since you did it outside of the dealership. Like you I live 1 1/2 -2 hrs from a dealer and would do most minor work myself except when under warranty
     
  14. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Sorry for the delay in replying; and, I imagine if I / we “pushed” the issue we could (may) get reimbursed but, the way we look at it we’re actually saving money just taking care of it ourselves (in this particular instance, anyway).

    Disclosure: Don’t know what we would’ve done without the referral / recommend we got from fellow CSR member Aaronpav though; as it is, we not only got the air voids repaired we made a new friend!

    I guess what I might suggest is see if you can find a reliable, dependable, proven track record fiberglass tech ahead of delivery (unless you have experience doing fiberglass repairs— I probably should but, the Admiral says, “No learning on my boat!” :D
     
  15. Jeff h

    Jeff h Member

    32
    Sep 17, 2017
    2017 Sea Ray SPX 210
    4.5 merc, Alpha drive

    Has anyone done this on a SPX 210 yet? Looking to see if there are templates out there already to order the Sea Deck from.
     
  16. Jeff h

    Jeff h Member

    32
    Sep 17, 2017
    2017 Sea Ray SPX 210
    4.5 merc, Alpha drive
    Well, to answer my own question, I sent SeaDeck an email and they were very courteous and prompt in replying that they were pretty sure they had partial drawings of the transom and bow pieces that people were wanting most. They did want me to verify if the pieces actually fit before I ordered, which means I have to wait until spring to get to the boat. :(

    I'm not sure I need piece 4, but I will be getting the rest of them.
     

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  17. Dizzy

    Dizzy Member

    49
    Feb 12, 2017
    Wisconsin
    2017 Sea Ray SPX 190
    Elevation Package
    4.5L 200hp MerCruiser
    Thinking about getting a vessel view mobile module. Worth it? Did you do the install yourself?
     
  18. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Member

    679
    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2005 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer, 2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    496 Mercruisers with Bravo IIIs, Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    It took about 15min to install AND connect to app on phone for 150 Merc fourstroke. I cant imagine it would be any harder with I/O. Very easy process. Well worth the money to have access to see vitals on the engine.
     
  19. FlyGuy

    FlyGuy New Member

    12
    Jul 26, 2010
    Houston
    2016 21SPX
    Merc 4.5L
    VesselView installation is removing a plastic cap, plugging in VV, and somehow securing the module. You can easily remove it as installation does not require making any permanent modifications (well, one screw in the engine compartment).

    The speedometer (GPS) and the ability to read stored errors is handy. It also allows you to read a few engine parameters in digital format from your phone. It can be used as a fuel computer if you remember to reset it after filling the tank. I've since installed PerfectPass and now only use VV while running the engine in the driveway, mostly out of curiosity. I can see VesselView coming in handy for engine problems or if the check engine light comes on.

    Worth it? Hard to say. It was a fun, easy first project!

    Best Wishes
     
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  20. Gansett Goose

    Gansett Goose New Member

    3
    Jan 20, 2018
    Sarasota, FL
    2018 Sea Ray SPX 230-OB
    Mercury 175 Verado
    Can the new SPX230 people play here too?
     

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