Official 1980's Weekender/Sundancer 300 thread

Discussion in 'Classic Sea Rays' started by Lucky's, May 28, 2012.

  1. QT1

    QT1 Member

    352
    Oct 20, 2016
    Belair, MD
    1988 300 Weekender, Quality Time
    5.7 Mercruisers, Avon rib w/ Yamaha 4 Stroke
    No problem . We were at season's end of fall baseball for my oldest. 14-1 win to end the season
     
  2. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    Boat got an oil change this weekend.
    First Mate got a bruised sternum.

    MechanicsWoes.jpg

    And on that note....how in the heck do you disassemble the thingy (you know me, always using technical terms) to replace the fuel pump filter cartridge? Fuel/water separator wasn't too bad, oil filter sucked as usual but was doable after fishing the wrench back out with a coat hanger....but that last one is really pesky. I Googled and YouTubed and couldn't find a diagram or tutorial anywhere--everything was focused on the fuel/water separator.
     
  3. Eric Martin

    Eric Martin New Member

    3
    Sep 27, 2017
    1988 Sea Ray 300 Sundancer
    Mercrusiers 5.7
    Need help. Can someone tell me the correct sterndrive for 88 sundancer with 5.7 mercruisers. I know its a alpha 1 gen 1 but need correct gear ratio.

    Thanks
     
  4. TitanTn

    TitanTn Member

    286
    Jul 12, 2015
    Chattanooga, TN
    1986 Saltare, 1998 400 Express
    454 direct drive; twin 3116TA
    If I'm following your thingy reference, there's a bolt on the bottom of the bowl. Back the bolt out and you'll be able to replace the filter.
     
  5. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I think it’s either 147:1 or 150:1.
     
  6. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Are you talking about Fram’s mounted inline just outside of each tank. Cartridge is FRAM 1110PL or equivalent?
    That’s what my 87 300 Sundancer had.
    If so, there is a hex head on top, right in the middle. Back it out while holding the canister to keep it from falling or spilling fuel.
    Those also uses 2 “O” rings each that come with the filters. The large thin one is easier to see than the smaller (ring size) one that you have to pull out and replace.
     
  7. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    Yep, right up under the deck just outside the fuel tank; what you're describing is what FM attempted, so we'll revisit after expanding our inventory of hex wrenches. None of those we had were the right size, the adjustable just couldn't get in there, and we opted not to manhandle it regardless of frustration level.

    Another vote for my next boat being a 340 with the 6.2s, just for the little bit of extra wiggle room in the ER.
     
  8. SCORPIO

    SCORPIO Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 7, 2008
    Delaware
    1989 300 DA
    Twin 5.7 Merc Alpha I
    Do yourself a favor and get a combination wrench of the correct size that has a ratchet on the box end, that makes that job a lot easier.

    From you comments, I'm guessing you don't have remote oil filters on your engines? That is a very worth while upgrade and not all that expensive. The filter remotely mounts on the port riser of each engine, two hoses run down to an adapter that is attached where the oil filter used to mount on the block.
     
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  9. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Can't remember, but I think mine were 9/16".
    Second vote for the ratcheting combination wrenches. They are handy tools to have around in general, but especially handy for some of the tight spaces you have to get on to on a boat.
    I've got a standard set and a metric set.
     
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  10. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    Correct. Bought one at a great price from a fellow classics owner ( ;) ) and planned to get another, but with work travel and other unexpected events blowing up my calendar, scheduling installation has been a PITA so I opted for old school fluid change to make sure the engines don't suffer from the delays.

    FM's probably trying to figure out a Valentine's gift....combo wrench set would be as good as anything, right? :cool:
     
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  11. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    [QUOTE="SCORPIO, post: 972235, member: 2975

    From you comments, I'm guessing you don't have remote oil filters on your engines? That is a very worth while upgrade and not all that expensive. The filter remotely mounts on the port riser of each engine, two hoses run down to an adapter that is attached where the oil filter used to mount on the block.[/QUOTE]
    Another great suggestion. I did that when I repowered my old 300. It made the job so much neater and easier.
    It was impossible to get those filters out of the stock location and over those stringers without making a mess. I used to stuff multiple oil absorber mats down there before attempting to get them off.
    If I remember.......getting the filters off was pretty straight forward but getting them over the stringer without a spill was impossible. It think the starboard motor was worse than the port but neither was a picnic.
     
  12. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    We cut a large hole into the top/side of a plastic gallon jug, leaving the neck and handle intact, and wedged it under the filter so FM could drop it in once detached, then maneuver the whole contraption without spilling oil into the bilge; it worked well for the fuel/water separator, too.
     
  13. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    T, help me out here. How do I change the fuel filters? By taking the wrench and by using the nut on the bottom, remove the metal canister?

    Also a word, change to the remote oil filter system. Once you do you will wonder why you didn't do it sooner.
     
  14. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    Sounds like the consensus here is to undo it from the top--I've been on the road a lot again so haven't gone tool shopping to get back to that part of the project. This year just hasn't been going my way!

    It's been quite a while....are you back up and at 'em at 100%?
     
  15. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Thank you, I'm going to try to do mine today. If I can find the filters.

    It's been a year to the month and it's been one hell of a year.
    Last month I had to get my gallbladder removed, it was full of stones. Never have I had pain like that! Folks on my dock to my doctor he should just put in a zipper.
     
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  16. QT1

    QT1 Member

    352
    Oct 20, 2016
    Belair, MD
    1988 300 Weekender, Quality Time
    5.7 Mercruisers, Avon rib w/ Yamaha 4 Stroke
    If you are on your boat today could you please measure the width of the access panel in the cockpit for the genny and water system . I just finished rotator cuff surgery but I’m trying to get a jump on my aft seat bench project. Thanks
     
  17. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    I just got your note. I will get you those tomorrow when I go back down.

    My 350's have two fuel filters and now I need to go find the others. Each of the motors has a filter up near the front of the block then another filter back at the fuel tank. I looked at three other SeaRays, none of them have this set up
     
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  18. trflgrl

    trflgrl Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    906
    Jun 23, 2014
    Middle Tennessee
    1989 Sundancer 300
    Twin 350 Merc/Alpha 1 Gen 1; Quicksilver 4.0 gen
    That's how mine is set up--are you trying to source the parts?
     
  19. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Yes, I'd like to make only one trip to get the filters. I'm just hunting the filters at the tank. I have the others
     
  20. QT1

    QT1 Member

    352
    Oct 20, 2016
    Belair, MD
    1988 300 Weekender, Quality Time
    5.7 Mercruisers, Avon rib w/ Yamaha 4 Stroke
    Thank you very much.
     

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