Need a way to keep a handgun handy in your home?

For those of you/us who have kids and grandkids around the house that handgun mount I made up is a good solution. I can't ever imagine my inquisitive grandson wanting to look behind my nightstand or poke around in GW's closet and finding my AR.

I used to think the same thing until one night when my 6yr old nephew walked into our den carrying a Remington 1100. It was unloaded but still quite a wakeup call. Never underestimate the consequences of a good old game of hide and seek. Needless to say, I have made substantial modifications to my firearm storage scheme.

That is, if I owned any firearms of course.
 
...After you have made your decision and are comfortable with it, please remove your panties, take the knots out of them and get on with your life.

Geesh!

Well GFC I am on your side, but it just proves a few old adages, "Ignorance is bliss" or "Ignorance begets ignorance." I keep mine in lock boxes not so much for children as to adults. I am continually surprised to watch some adults with a gun in their hands. It is like they have never heard anything about gun safety, e.g. unloaded guns kill, never point a gun at anyone unless you intend to use it, etc.

I have a loaded chambered gun in nearly ever room of my house, in a lock box which I can key in and open in pitch darkness, and they are not the finger print type. I have no use for those type of boxes. It is not paranoia, but just todays environment and apartments with many HUD guests nearby.

I suppose I am old generation and do not buy into all of this current slap on the wrist so many criminals get today.
 
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I agree GFC. Some people can't think for themselves. Kind of like lemmings to the sea.
 
All of you who are getting your panties in a knot over this gun mount (or gun ownership) thing, please remember that I'm not suggesting that anyone who does not own a gun run out and buy one. Nor am I suggesting that you keep loaded guns in your house if you do not feel comfortable about doing that. Someone earlier posted a comment that my posts about having a gun in the house where there are children was irresponsible.

When I made those comments, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that each of you was old enough and intelligent enough to make your own determinations about whether you wanted to have a loaded gun in the house. Perhaps I overestimated the abilities of some, but I doubt it.

So, for the record, let me state that whether or not you chose to keep a loaded gun in your home is your own decision that should be made using all available data about (a) who might be in your house, (b) how inquisitive they are, and (c) how trustworthy they are, and (d) any other data/criteria/selection process you choose to follow. ONLY after a thorough assessment about your personal situation, and after consulting all of the 'experts' on the internet about this decision, should you make any decisions about keeping loaded guns around.

After you have made your decision and are comfortable with it, please remove your panties, take the knots out of them and get on with your life.

Geesh!

"For those of you/us who have kids and grandkids around the house that handgun mount I made up is a good solution"

Your words correct?

Go and re-read my post. It was prefaced for a reason that although I do not own a gun currently I HAVE NOTHNG AGAINST THEM! I gave a real experience that I had as a young inquisitive child, finding my grandpas gun hanging in the back of a closet on a hook, and I don't PERSONALLY think that having a loaded gun on the back of your nightstand as the safest option when kids are in your home no mater how much you think you know them. And don't misconstrue my words about having guns in the house. I said I think it's irresponsible to have this particular gun mount in a house with kids. Again, re-read what I wrote.

Now that being said, THis is not about gun control, gun rights, gun ownership or anything of the sort. Go buy a tank if you want. I could give two Lake Michigan Iceballs if you keep your gun on a hook, but don't assume just because I disagree that this is a good idea for homes with kids that I have some sort of different agenda.

Consider my pantie wad removed.
 
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One thing I will not do on the internet is disclose if, what, where and in what state (loaded or not) I have or do not have. However I do have children who stay with me enough for this to be a concern. If you are not sure about your kids, then test them.
I tested my youngest (9) about "finding" a gun in the house. An UNLOADED revolver was left on the kitchen table while my mother was cooking dinner. She of coarse knew about the test. The revolver was in a holster so he couldn`t look in the cylinder to see if it was loaded. My son saw it after a little while. He just went to my Mom and asked "How come Grandpa`s gun is on the table?" She directed him to Grandpa and I who were in the garage. He passed the test.
Now what I do with that is for me to decide. So as the OP has stated, here is an Idea. Take out of it what you will.
But if you don`t know your kids response to a surprise, test them with an unloaded or even disabled (remove firing pin) gun.
Another thought. there are stories of children saving the day with Dad`s gun while Dad was away. The one I am thinking of was a Cop`s son who shot a burger with his Dad`s AR-15 to protect his little sister.
 
The first rule of a gun fight is to bring a gun. The second rule is to bring all of your friends with guns. A gun is a tool. I am the weapon.

I have two boys under the age of 10. Both have gone shooting with me and they each have their own AR15's that they will be formally presented when they turn 18.

Having said that, they are not curious about guns which is beneficial but I am still extremely careful and keep all but my carry gun locked up.
 
I was a cop when both of my boys were growing up. I had loaded guns around the house all the time. They knew it, they knew how to handle them and respected them enough that they didn't touch them. Ever.

Zorba, I'm sorry but I can't ever imagine my grandkids pulling the night stand out away from the wall to look behind it for anything. That's why it's there, not under the mattress, in a drawer, etc. I realize that kids are nosy and prone to looking in drawers, on counters, etc. But for them to pull the nightstand out to look behind it is beyond comprehension.

Like I said (or maybe just tried to say), make your own decisions. If you want to make one or more of those gun mounts, go for it. If you don't, that's fine too. I really don't give a rip.

I didn't address those comments you quoted specifically at anyone in particular, but if you took them to be aimed at you (pardon the pun), maybe that's not such a bad thing.

At least your panties are knot free now.

Carry on.
 
Well its an idea you posted. Good or bad, depends on the family. I did notice nobody jumped on me as to a way to "Test" a child. I wonder why? I was sure somebody would think I was nuts or the test was flawed.
I have my opinions, should you care about them, well maybe or maybe not. but this is what I take about you from your postings.
I am a kid from New Jersey. We have many bad cops there, and a few good ones too. I drive a truck for a living. And that brings me in contact with law enforcement regularly too. Most don`t know that all states have a special department of the State Police to go after Trucks. And that bunch of cops just Love trucks. After all they don`t choose cops that like trucks or truckers to go after just trucks. So lets just say I have met my share of jerks with badges. Many I know of on the job today are power hungry and believe they are rulers.
You on the other hand are the rare constitutional Police Officer who remembers the oath you took. I know the oath because I took one in the USAF. This is obvious by your power to the people approach as opposed to the others Power to some (us) types.
Sad to see that so many people are afraid to the freedoms they have. they were taught to fear a gun, while they do not lock up the booze, prescription pills, and steak knives. All three hurt more kids than any firearm.
 
Both my kids have been shooting handguns since before they could hold it up by themselves...they could shoot anytime they wanted...they had no fixation on the guns. As adults neither owns a firearm. My grandkids do not have that exposure or training...I know they are the opposite and I have to be careful because of it.
 
Smoke detector, spare tire , fire extinguisher,flash light all used to be prepared but not one mention of a house alarm I don't think I would have the stones to pull the trigger. I don't think there is anyone out there that wants to kill me or my love ones so if it's just common BnE I would think a house alarm is money well spent and if that doesn't solve the problem then lock and load let the lead fly but remember dry wall will not stop a bullet. Give me a shoot gun any day point in the general direction and squeeze the trigger and with the right load the whole dry wall thing isn't a problem that is if I thought I needed that kind of insurance.I live in a town population 8,000 if I lived out in the country I'm sure I would feel the need to take things into my own hands. Like I was taught if you pull a gun you better plan on using it and there is no training to prepare you to kill someone. A gun is not a prevention it is a solution to the current problem the things listed above hold zero responsibilities to use I have never heard anyone having regrets to using a flash light. I could not imagine what it would be like to be put in that position. With that said to each his own.
 
Maybe I'm a paranoid nutcase, but I hear of too many home invasions in Metro Phoenix. One 3 blocks away in a gated mountainside community even - that was a little close. Here's my recent acquisition which allows me to be loaded and ready. Hopefully they never have to be used...

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This thing was cheap ~$250, just big enough for me as I only have a 12 gauge and a 40 cal., and the biometrics work great. Allows 120 fingerprints, so my wife and I each have 60 saved. Opens in about 1-2 seconds. Note, this isn't a real gun safe. More like a locker than a safe, but it keeps the kids out, while providing quick, easy access. They do also make two larger models for you guys with loaded up AR's and 308's.

Kevin
 
I would think a house alarm is money well spent...I live in a town population 8,000 if I lived out in the country I'm sure I would feel the need to take things into my own hands.[/I]
Shelter in place, help is on the way. Or not.
Just because you live in a big town with a police force, doesn't mean you won't be sliced and diced before the police arrive. What can be done to you or your loved ones in 9.1 minutes? That's the average response time in the largest city with the largest police force.
http://www.metro.us/newyork/news/local/2012/09/20/police-response-time-to-emergency-calls-slows/

BTW, the police have no duty to protect you or your loved ones IF they respond to the call.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

I don't advocate that anyone get a gun to protect themselves and their families, but there has been a lot of knocking those who do exercise that civil right and prepare themselves for that responsibility. There just has been too many good people getting snuffed out by bad people. The police could not save any of them. The police enforce the laws and find criminals after the crime. Their duty is not to provide police services to individuals. Unfortunately, not all individuals are capable of defending themselves or their families and their only hope is the help of another family member, good Samaritan, or the police. It is the Law of the Jungle. Hope always loses against strength, a knife, shank, bat, machete, and a gun and that is a scary position to be in.
 
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