National Black Voter Day from Biden

Long ago one of my inspectors was a native. Very good at his job and was treated the same as all the other inspectors. He grew on a reservation and it was not easy he said. He had ambition to better his life. One of his sayings was we are all just like an apple different color on outside but all the same inside.
 
northern said:
Long ago one of my inspectors was a native. Very good at his job and was treated the same as all the other inspectors. He grew on a reservation and it was not easy he said. He had ambition to better his life. One of his sayings was we are all just like an apple different color on outside but all the same inside.
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Are you sure that's how he used 'apple'? Usually the apple reference is an insult....call a native an apple and you're saying he's 'red on the outside but white on the inside'
 
Woody said:
Are you sure that's how he used 'apple'? Usually the apple reference is an insult....call a native an apple and you're saying he's 'red on the outside but white on the inside'
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That is what he said. Smart fella by the time he left us he owned six sections of land and had non natives working for him.
 
argus1 said:
I really have a problem with someone doesn't understand or does not know the history of denying African Americans the right to vote. It appears that you do not understand it was not that long ago in many places in this country where black people live there were many obstacles put in place to limit African-American rights, and one of the major ways was to enact barriers to prevent them from voting. A series of laws were passed state by state in the south, ranging from literacy tests to poll taxes. As result many blacks today do not trust that the current political system is open to them, and as such they see no reason to vote. The efforts that you are so vocal in your non-support, are efforts to encourage black citizens to participate in our democracy and let their voices heard in a positive way.
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Are you actually naïve enough to not believe that a National Black Voter Day is nothing more than a con job by the Biden Campaign to take advantage of the current racial divide in the country and divide the country even further? The Voting Rights Act was signed into law in 1965 by then President Johnson. That was 55 years ago. Your argument doesn't hold water. Do you have some documentation or facts to back up you hypothesis? Or is this just your liberal pipe dream?

C'mon....convince us.
 
bobeast said:
Do you really believe any group of citizens don't know or trust that they can vote? Maybe they should Google it. My ancestors have a story too. Everybody does. But we don't need some well-meaning but condescending effort to edumacate us. Doing so just reinforces the stereotypes we should have outgrown by now.
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Unless you have the lived experience of being an African American, you have a hard time understanding the obstacles that were faced when a black person in certain communities tried to vote and the long lasting effects this has had on a group of people. This is very definition of institutionalized racism. Many white people believe that it does not exist and almost all black people can tell personal stories how institutionalized racism has impacted their lives. If we refuse to listen each other and accept the each has their own experiences that may be different than that of our story then things will never change. I don't know anything about your ancestors but when we talk about assimilation it is totally different for someone white than it is for someone with black skin.
 
scoflaw said:
Are you black Argus ?
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Why is that important to this conversation? I am just pointing out some trufts that some of us may not be aware. Being white or black, has nothing to do with sharing information, Why, would my information be more valuable if I was black and not have any validity if I am white? The truth does not have a color. However, I do not come to Club Sea Ray to debate race. There is a lot of information avaialble that explains the lasting effects of institutionalized racism on various communities of people throughout the U.S. Black voting suppression is a real thing and both political parties use it to their advantage. I come to this forum the learn about Sea Ray boats which I think in the future I shall do. Here is an article read if anyone needs sone facts about black voter suppression - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/poll-prri-voter-suppression/565355/

But I going to leave this conversation for others to continue if desired. I am going back to the boating forums.
 
yobub said:
It is a campaign designed to encourage black people to register to vote, and to participate in our democracy. It was started by BET and the National Urban League, and then supported by dozens of other organizations.

Not sure why you would have a problem with organizations encouraging black people to vote.
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In other words because they’re black they don’t vote? :rolleyes:
 
argus1 said:
I really have a problem with someone doesn't understand or does not know the history of denying African Americans the right to vote. It appears that you do not understand it was not that long ago in many places in this country where black people live there were many obstacles put in place to limit African-American rights, and one of the major ways was to enact barriers to prevent them from voting. A series of laws were passed state by state in the south, ranging from literacy tests to poll taxes. As result many blacks today do not trust that the current political system is open to them, and as such they see no reason to vote. The efforts that you are so vocal in your non-support, are efforts to encourage black citizens to participate in our democracy and let their voices heard in a positive way.
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Oh puleeze enough w your virtue signaling. Blacks have been getting handicaps for decades.

It’s 2020. The country voted a black POTUS twice, stupidly I’ll add.

There is no systematic racism...unless you’re white.
 
argus1 said:
Unless you have the lived experience of being an African American, you have a hard time understanding the obstacles that were faced when a black person in certain communities tried to vote and the long lasting effects this has had on a group of people. This is very definition of institutionalized racism. Many white people believe that it does not exist and almost all black people can tell personal stories how institutionalized racism has impacted their lives. If we refuse to listen each other and accept the each has their own experiences that may be different than that of our story then things will never change. I don't know anything about your ancestors but when we talk about assimilation it is totally different for someone white than it is for someone with black skin.
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Like I said. everybody has a story.
 
argus1 said:
I really have a problem with someone doesn't understand or does not know the history of denying African Americans the right to vote. It appears that you do not understand it was not that long ago in many places in this country where black people live there were many obstacles put in place to limit African-American rights, and one of the major ways was to enact barriers to prevent them from voting. A series of laws were passed state by state in the south, ranging from literacy tests to poll taxes. As result many blacks today do not trust that the current political system is open to them, and as such they see no reason to vote. The efforts that you are so vocal in your non-support, are efforts to encourage black citizens to participate in our democracy and let their voices heard in a positive way.
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You don’t get to make up for it by voting twice or committing other election fraud.
 
argus1 said:
Why is that important to this conversation? I am just pointing out some trufts that some of us may not be aware. Race has nothing to do with sharing information, Why, would my information be more valuable if I was educated and not have any validity if I am uneducated ? The truth does not have a color. However, I do not come to Club Sea Ray to debate race. There is a lot of information avaialble that explains the lasting effects of institutionalized racism on various communities of people throughout the U.S. voting suppression is a real thing and both political parties use it to their advantage. I come to this forum the learn about Sea Ray boats which I think in the future I shall do. Here is an article read if anyone needs sone facts about voter suppression - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/poll-prri-voter-suppression/565355/

But I going to leave this conversation for others to continue if desired. I am going back to the boating forums.
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I edited your post with a few minor corrections.
 
Woody, I think I will stay out of this one. Good luck
 
Maybe so but I just took race out of it.

Voter suppression and tossing ballots has been happening for hundreds of years. Different groups of people each have their time to be suppressed. Now it’s the poor white mans turn.

What makes it such a joke is that it is the same oligarchs who have been rigging things and then blaming whatever group that it is expedient to attack.

I have been immersed into the worst neighborhoods in Baltimore and DC. What I found is that most folk don’t fit the narrative of brutal killers. It’s the excuses and entitlement among a minority who keep the stereotypes churning, along with a more than willing government to enable it.

There are no simple answers and I’m tired of all the crap.
 
Todd320 said:
Does it matter?
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I know you are no longer following this thread (so you say) but since you asked, yes its important because your prior post is stated like you personally are the person wronged. I think if you were black you would proudly state, "F**kin A right I am and I have experienced this." But you didn't which leads one to conclude that you are another white Liberal that thinks he is standing up for the poor down-trodden black man.

Blacks were given the right to vote in 1965....the same voting rights as a white man. Equal rights, correct? Isn't that what this is supposed to be about....Equal Rights? But it's not really about equal rights for a blacks....It's about Special Rights isn't it? Isn't that what the Affirmative Action program was all about for example? My son is a police officer and more than 25 years ago he put himself through the State Peace Officer's Academy in his state paying out of his own pocket. He graduated near the top of his class and then applied to many police departments around the state but was unable to be hired because many of the Affirmative Action programs had not fulfilled the required number of applicants of color regardless of their experience. How is that not racism? Reverse that scenario and we have another round of so-called peaceful demonstrations.

Many people of color graduate from school, get a job and raise families in the traditional manor and don't want or need special rights. But when 50% of the crime in this country is committed by a group that consists of 19% of the population there is a serious problem. And if you want to throw around the words "systemic" and "institutional" start there because that's where the real problem is.

Lastly, I don't consider The Atlantic as an unbiased news source. Since 2016 they strongly supported the Democratic presidential candidates, in particular Hillary Clinton, and have been bashing Donald Trump through editorials and opinion for the past 4 years. Very little fact was introduced.

It's probably best you stick with boating because you're outgunned here.
Shawn
 
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