My leak issue....seeking help from members.

davefin

davefin

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Oct 4, 2006
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Island Heights, NJ
Boat Info
2001 310 DA, Furuno
Engines
350 EFI Horizon I/B
Discovered a wet carpet outside the head on my 2001 310DA this weekend. The carpet under the sink in the head was also damp, especially in the right corner as this was the lowest point. Not a lot of water, but enough to be noticable to the touch. It appears that the carpeting under the sink goes completely under the head "shell", I would assume that is why the carpet is wet outside the head door.

Here's what I checked:

Porthole seal....OK
Porthole spacing in the fit at hull on outside...OK
Porthole screws tightness...OK
Head sink water fittings (hot and cold)...OK
Refrigerator...OK
Shower sump...OK

Anyone of you fellow SeaRay owners ever have a similiar situation and can offer a remedy?

Here is a picture of the area in question on my 310.
 
dave,
I have a 44DA (just bought pre-owned) but had the SAME problem this weekend. After countless hours of tracing all of the fresh water lines throughout the boat (I have two heads so had more to trace than you), it turned out that the single handle faucet in the shower has a mixing valve on the back - cold and hot water go in to a brass housing and water comes out in middle to the shower head. The hot water connection to the mixing valve was leaking at the valve (red hot water hose with a plastic fitting). I was able to access this from a inspection plate inside one of my galley cabinets. I spent today with a carpet cleaning maching extracting the water and making sure the rugs were cleaned. Good luck.
 
Shinsr,

At least you found the problem. Good luck with your 44.

I think I will take the toilet apart this coming weekend and check fittings and hoses in that area. Sure is annoying.
 
Dave,

When does the water occumulates, during rain or when you run something or after cruise?

You had mentioned "Head sink water fittings (hot and cold)...OK", what about galley sink? What about drainage hoses/fittings from both sinks?
 
We had the same problem with ours. It turned out the water was getting in the cabinet below the sink in the head. It was saturating the carpet and seaping through to the companionway.

I added a better weather stripping around the interior of the cabinet, tightened the port side window, and warned my wife when showering not to hose down that specific area.

The problem was solved after that.
 
Here's a real long shot, but I'll share my experience. We were coming back from a long trip down the lake and got caught in some unexpected snotty weather. The last couple hours was spent in about 10 footers, we had our '95 330 at the time, we occasionally took a few over the bow. Anyway one of those waves took the tear drop shaped vent cover off the side of the hull at the head vent, and when we finally got back to port, the admiral went below and got wet feet. The water was going in the hole in the side of the hull, through the vent duct, and filled up the waste basket in the head under the sink. The overflow soaked the carpet. :smt021

If you have had some heavy rain, check the caulk around your vent cover. Spend enough time on a boat and you can experience anything.
Good luck
 
Check your sink drain hose. I had the one in the kitchen split and could never figure it out until I ran water in the sink and finally found the culprit.
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions. This was first noticed last Friday when I arrived at the boat in the slip. It did indeed rain during the week. Boat was not underway during the week. I will check the hull clamshell vent, but it is several feet forward of the head and I feel no dampness under the galley sink that is near this vent. I will indeed check the drain hoses for both sinks. I am also going the remove some of the apparatus at the base of the toilet to see that the fresh water fill hose is not the problem. I'll know more this coming weekend.

Thanks again for all of the help. This forum is the best.
 
I had carpet wet in this area a year or two ago. It was the drain for the kitchen sink. The PVC pipe worked it's way out of the connection where it exits the boat. The Kitchen sink and bathroom sink drain come to a T joint that then goes out the side of the boat. Had to take kitchen drawers out and get PVC primer and sealer and reconnect it. It had worked its way loose after 4-5 hours in 10 footers.
 
Dave,

Good luck, and keep us posted. Have not had that problem yet, but it would be good to be ready for it.
 
OK, here's what I found and did not find today. As it rained quite hard last night, I thought I would check a list of things that might be the cause of my leak. All of the fittings at and between the galley sink and head sink are dry. The ring at the base of the toilet is dry. Porthole Window gaskets are tight and dry. One thing I think might be the problem....namely the ribber seal at the base of the port side windshield. I pulled off the seal and noticed a lot of water in the track. This may not be unusual as it did indeed rain last night. What I did find was one screw did not appear to be bedded tightly. In fact it was loose. I removed it and cleaned out the entire track and let it air dry for a couple of hours and resealed it along with a generous application of sealer to the other screws. I cleaned up the rubber seal and reinstalled. Lets now wait and see if this was the problem. It appeared logical that this could be the leaking area, but only time will tell.
 
Just a thought have you checked your railing they are through bolted so if a little loose they could leak. I went through mind and on a few I got a turn and a half out of them. I had water under the V berth cushion for the port side storage, no windows in that area so that is what led me to the railing. No water since I tightened every thing. My $.02
 
I have an 04 260 Sundancer with similar issues. As you walk down into the cabin, the top step opens up to reveal the pump for the AC. The issue is there is water accumulating outside the pump box and migrates into the carpet at the bottom of the steps. It is definately coming from a fresh water leak somewhere...but I've yet to track it down. Let me know if you figure anything out...
 
OOps spoke to soon I went to change out the shower sump pump with one with a float switch and guess what it was full of water and the carpet was wet so I am going to do a water test with the garden hose and see what I can see.
 
I did a hose test and it looked like it was the windows so I took the covers off the window drains and hosed them out there was a lot of crud that came out. I also drilled a 1/8 in hole at the back of the window frame and through the bottom under the rubber that covers the screws.
We had a good rain yesterday and the new pump with the float was working. I don't understand why Sea Ray didn't have a float switch on the shower sump pump but the more I work on the boat the more dumb things I see they did.
 
This is my wet carpet. I traced it to loose and badly sealed canvas snap fittings just under the centre windscreen. The fittings were to secure a winterisation cover over the glass.
Terry
 
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Well I thought I had the leaks fixed. This was the first weekend we stayed on the boat and used the shower and guess what the floor got wet so when we got home and cleaned her out I started looking again. I opened the inspection cover that allows me to look under the floor of the head and found that the hose clamp was loose on the floor drain so I tightened it up.Then looking better in the head I noticed there wasn't any caulk along the bottom of the vinyl that is under the door sill, will caulk that up and see what happens next weekend. The float switch I installed on the step down pump makes things a lot better, the sump doesn’t over flow on to the carpet and I don’t have to leave the pump running when the shower is being used.
 
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