Mercury seeks sterndrive revival with plan to build engine blocks

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Mercury seeks sterndrive revival with plan to build engine blocks

Posted on 15 November 2013
Mercury Marine hopes to revitalize the sterndrive market with decisions the company has made about “taking control” by building its own sterndrive engine blocks instead of receiving them from the automotive industry, as it is doing now.
“We have made the decision that we will shift away from an automotive supply for our gas sterndrive product. For one reason, there are lots of things going on in automotive today with [Corporate Average Fuel Economy] requirements that may make sense for automotive, but aren’t necessarily adding value for marine applications,” Mercury president Mark Schwabero told investors and analysts during a meeting this week at the New York Stock Exchange.

“We’ll have more control over that product,” Schawbero said. “There is no change in the fundamental and core aspects of Mercury. Sure, it’s a new product program, and with any new product program there’s always a bit of risk. But we believe in the fact that we’ve already done this with our sterndrive engine in 2012, and we think having control and having purpose-built product for marine makes sense. We believe we have an opportunity to revitalize the sterndrive market, and decisions we’ve made about taking control, I think will be helpful.”

Schwabero said an “aggressive competitive environment” in the outboard space was attributable to a “small but growing influence of low-cost, two-stroke outboards.”

“We are still seeing some influence from some entry-level 2-strokes, particularly from the Chinese, that are coming in at a lower level,” he said. “Our service and distribution bring notable advantages to us in that market.”

Schwabero noted that outboards make up 43 percent of Mercury Marine sales, sterndrives make up 14 percent, and parts and accessories account for another 43 percent.

— Reagan Haynes

http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/home/...rive-revival-with-plan-to-build-engine-blocks
 
Sounds like Merc. may start producing their own 4.3 liter V6s and/or small blocks just as they do with the 8.2. Quite frankly, I am surprised they have not started marketing a sterndrive version of the Verado.
 
Merc is going to manufacture from the ground up??? Rut roh.
 
Anyone hear what engines they are going to make or remake?

Mark.
 
So....they will build their own engine and the RWC impeller will still be a RPITA to get to in order to maintain and a proprietary engine monitoring system.... WOW..... I'm impressed. Give me a Crusader or an Offshore 420 any day.
 
Not sure what I'm missing?
Was the 4.3L a bad motor?
I've not owned one but, haven't heard anything bad about it?

Are we assuming Mercruiser is going to start casting their own blocks or are they going to get the blocks from a supplier and build them up into marine engines.

The 3.0L, 4.3L, 5.7L, 7.4L, 8.2L are still all available brand new from one of GM suppliers but, GM isn't finishing them into auto engines anymore.

I'm interested in what's to come,

Mark.
 
See quote from Dusty below:
Mercury Marine plans to introduce a new sterndrive engine next year as the company moves away from sterndrive engine blocks made by General Motors and strives to shift demand back to the segment.
“We’re coming out with a new sterndrive with lots of features no consumer’s ever seen before on a sterndrive,” Brunswick Corp. CEO Dusty McCoy told investors and analysts during a conference call on Thursday to discuss third-quarter earnings. “We think that’s important, as we move away from GM blocks and we own this whole franchise, that we bring something new to the market that the public’s never seen, and we’re confident that we’ll begin to stop the erosion in the sterndrive market.”
At least two boatbuilders have indicated that GM will stop producing the sterndrive blocks used by MerCruiser and Volvo Penta, although engine companies and GM have declined to specifically comment.
 
Not sure what I'm missing?
Was the 4.3L a bad motor?
I've not owned one but, haven't heard anything bad about it?

Are we assuming Mercruiser is going to start casting their own blocks or are they going to get the blocks from a supplier and build them up into marine engines.

The 3.0L, 4.3L, 5.7L, 7.4L, 8.2L are still all available brand new from one of GM suppliers but, GM isn't finishing them into auto engines anymore.

I'm interested in what's to come,

Mark.

The 4.3 had its issues in both auto and marine applications. They were overcome and it turned out to be a real workhorse. However it is a 30+ year old horse. I want to know what Merc is going to do to wow me into buying their engine as opposed to a competitor. For example, the 6.2 was a great engine and a no brainer replacement for the standard 7.4. You gain 10 HP per side and shed 200 pounds per side in one shot. Shortly after, Crusader countered with a 6.0 pushing 375 a side and Offshore came out with a 383ci pressing 420 a side weighing in at under 600 pounds.

Merc produces a decent engine, but they are nothing to write home about. My take is Merc touts its racing heritage as a baseline for its design. I say BS. Neither I nor most boaters are racers. Racers remove their engines after a race. Even amaterurs only go so many races without doing some maintenance to set up for the next race. Oft times, that requires hours in the ER with the boat on a trailer or engine removal.

I don't have a trailer and cannot afford to remove an engine to deal with what should be routine maintenance.

I think if Merc were as forward looking today as they were decades ago, they could not be touched. As it stands now, they strike me as a company interested more in next quarters profit reports as opposed to keeping me as a customer.
 
I wonder what the change will do to boat values? Ford used to be a big player, and there is definitely a penalty for having the Ford/Cobra package versus Mercury stuff of the same year.

BTW you guys did see that Indmar is making the Ford 6.2L into a marine application? I wonder how the Ford 5.0 and even the Ecoboost V6 would fare in marine applications?
 
I wonder what the change will do to boat values? Ford used to be a big player, and there is definitely a penalty for having the Ford/Cobra package versus Mercury stuff of the same year.

BTW you guys did see that Indmar is making the Ford 6.2L into a marine application? I wonder how the Ford 5.0 and even the Ecoboost V6 would fare in marine applications?

The 6.2 (Vette/Caddy version) is now an outboard http://www.seven-marine.com/

Several years ago, Lexus toyed with the idea of marinizing, as did GM with the Caddy Northstar. Neither made a huge splash (no pun intended). The marine environment as everyone here knows is not the same as the auto environment. On the flip side, the Hino diesels in Bayliners are marinized Toyota (Japan version) truck engines. I've heard no complaints other than power vs. Cummins. They are damn fine engines from a longevity standpoint.
 
I dont even want to guess how much that seven marine LS9 costs, but holy hell what an awesome engine.
 
I dont even want to guess how much that seven marine LS9 costs, but holy hell what an awesome engine.

It was anticipated to debut at close to $100 Large......BUT..... It came in at only $69 Large..... I'm thinking if you ordered them in multiples, you may be able to swing a better deal....... Want a couple?
 

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