MarineMax *sigh*

beernutz

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Aug 16, 2009
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Mobile, AL
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2000 190 Signature BR
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5.0L EFI 240 hp Mercruiser
WARNING: This is a vent thread. If people venting makes you hyperventilate, perhaps continuing to read this is not such a good idea. If you hate long posts, Cliff notes have been appended to the end for your convenience.

I picked up my boat from MarineMax today and on the way home decided to put it in the water to see how it was running. It has been with them since 6/1/2010 so 18 days in the shop.

I had originally taken it in to them on the front end of a four day trip where I was flying out of Pensacola because flights are so much cheaper than in Mobile. I had emailed them several days in advance and had spoken to service on the phone after they got my emails to be sure they knew what I wanted done. So I thought I'd kill two birds by driving the 70 miles from Mobile to Pensacola on the 1st, drop off the boat for the 4 days I'd be gone and (hopefully) pick it up after my return flight, all fixed up.

I had three basic issues I had emailed them to work on:

1. The boat wouldn't move when shifted into forward or reverse. Motor runs fine and it wasn't a prop issue so I took it in to let them figure it out.

It turned out to be just a bolt connecting a linkage cable had come loose which they re-tightened with lock-tight. It cost me the $50 diagnose labor to fix.

2. The temperature gauge showed I was running between 170 and 220. I strongly suspected it wasn't actually running that hot as I'd used an infrared temp gun on it while running and couldn't find any spot on the engine that was over 165.

After some run around resulting from another MarineMax shipping a replacement volt meter instead of a temp meter to them, they replaced the meter and told me it was registering under 170 when they tested it. It was about $140 to put int the new gauge. They had tested the boat and agreed with me that it wasn't actually running hot.

3. The boat wouldn't start reliably when only set to the cranking battery. I almost always had to move the battery switch to the Combined setting to get it to start even though both batteries are less than a year old and one was only put in 6 months ago.

It turns out, after much back and forth on the phone where MarineMax claimed they couldn't find what was wrong, that one of the batteries they'd previously put in it wasn't holding a charge. They replaced it for a $75 labor cost.

I also had them do a trailer check for $75 which resulted in me having to replace 3 trailer tires (not by MarineMax) before I made the trip back to Mobile, so this was probably money well spend.

My vent is because when I put the boat in the water on the way back to Mobile from Pensacola, I found that the temp gauge still reads exactly what it did before, about halfway between 170 and 220, and now my speedometer doesn't work at all. The starting problem does seem to have been fixed by the new battery so I will give them credit for that but I was so ticked off when I saw the speedometer and temp gauge I could have spit.

I called them from on the water and they did let me speak to one of their tech guys, although not the one who worked on my boat. He confirmed that my speedo problem was likely the result of someone just not having reconnected some cables. I was under the dash at the time and he tried to guide me a bit on how to do the reconnect, but it wasn't obvious how to fix it as the cable ends weren't easily reattached and I didn't want to f-up my electrical system while sitting in the middle of Mobile Bay.

I guess I'm most irked that their service guys know by now that it is pretty inconvenient for me to tow the boat the 140 mile round trip to have them work on it. They don't seem to want to put in the effort to make sure it is the way it should be before it gets handed back to me.

I was already annoyed with them because when I dropped the boat off on the 1st, after sending them the above mentioned email detailing what I wanted done, they had written up a service ticket for a 100 hour service and a trailer check.

So I had a "WTF is this?" conversation in service with them about the ticket which had my detailed problem descriptions stapled to the back. For some reason, they weren't sure what I wanted done to the boat even with the contents of my email stapled to the service ticket. Anyway before I left for my flight I thought I had things straightened out about what was to be done.

However, when I called them on the 3rd before my return flight brought me back to Pensacola, it appeared they still hadn't done anything on the boat as they were confused about whether they were to do the 100 hour service or not. Grrr--it felt like deja vu--didn't I have this conversation before? When I dropped off the boat I'd told them that I'd only run the engine 19 hours since I had bought the boat from them and that 100 hour service was a bit premature. Please just fix my three problems and do the trailer check was how I'd left it, or so I thought. That's what I get for thinking.

Cliff notes: Guy having work done at a MarineMax experiences exasperating lapses in communications and while some problems get fixed, the biggest expense was to replace something that turned out not to be broken and to add insult to injury he ended up with a non-functioning speedometer.
 
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I would be annoyed with them as well .. sound like a poor outfit to me..
 
Looks like all MM are not the same. We have had good luck with local Clearwater MM. Keep on them about getting things corrected, sounds like maybe the meter didn't get changed....or the temp sensor is the problem.
 
It is 90 miles further down the road from Pensacola, but the dealer in Panama City is superb. You can talk directly to the service manager, not a service writer, and he has about 25 years experience working on everything from a 200' crew boat to a 10' whaler. Their technicians are not rookies either........I've kept my boats in their marina for 25 years and in that period I have not lost a single day on the water waiting on a repair, and have never once had to tell them you didn't fix it, you forgot something, or you made a mess of my boat. Its is always right, the first time, every time.......not the cheapest guys in town, but you get what you pay for.
 
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I'm happy to have read a post that was so well written. I wish we saw more like this on CSR.
 
Hmmmm....fix one thing and break something unrelated. Fix unrelated thing and break something else. Repeat cycle 5 times. Feels like I've been down this path.
 
Hmmmm....fix one thing and break something unrelated. Fix unrelated thing and break something else. Repeat cycle 5 times. Feels like I've been down this path.


Yep and what really takes the biscuit is that they often have the cheek to charge the Customers the time they take to fix there own mistakes ..:smt021
 
Like mawyatt, I have nothing but good things to say about the MarineMax here in Clearwater...

sorry for your troubles, hopefully they get resolved quickly.
 
Yep and what really takes the biscuit is that they often have the cheek to charge the Customers the time they take to fix there own mistakes ..:smt021

I laughed out loud when i saw your post! I was considering writing this one myself today! :thumbsup::lol::grin:

Put my boat in for B service which is all fluids, filters, and plugs and impellers 2 weeks ago Monday. Last weekend about 1/2 of the service was complete and apparently the balance was to be completed the following Monday. :huh:

Yesterday we go to take all the Dads out and the Genny alerts and shuts down. I open the hatch to find they neglected to refill the genny with antifreeze, and the fill tube is still unattached. Of course the line is brittle so I leave everyone on the boat on shore power and go to West marine, buy a line and new clamps, and return. Squeeze my big butt down in there to reattach everything and fill the reservoir all the while listening to the comments from my boat of kids and relatives and I was soaked with sweat from the 90+ weather!:smt013:smt013:smt100

MM has not called me once since dropping the boat off, they are never available to even answer the phone when you call even for an update.:smt101:smt101

The way they do business here sure leaves a HUGE void for someone to come in and establish a good customer centered marine service business on Lanier!
 
I have cooled off a bit from when I wrote the initial post. This was the second time I've had work done at that MarineMax store and the first time I had a good experience. My initial experience buying the boat from them last year also went reasonably well.

Hopefully I can fix my speedometer problem myself. I did notice yesterday when I took a look at the boat again that my DC plug isn't working now either but hopefully that is also just the result of something not getting reattached that I can fix myself. Hope springs eternal.:thumbsup:
 
Hopefully I can fix my speedometer problem myself. I did notice yesterday when I took a look at the boat again that my DC plug isn't working now either but hopefully that is also just the result of something not getting reattached that I can fix myself. Hope springs eternal.:thumbsup:

I really have an issue with the quality of service in the marine industry. Sure, you might be able to fix it yourself but this should not have happened in the first place. Yet we continue to fix these things ourselves and continue to accept that "this is the way it is". I've mentioned this to my dealer and said that I don't demand perfection, I just expect it to be done right. I was told that everyone has different expectations. Different expectations? Some people expect things to be done wrong and are OK with it? Some people expect a new problem as the result of something else being worked on? Really?

Here are my "demands" -- don't leave a greasy rag on my seat, don't leave a pile of screws on my dash, verify that everything works as it should, verify that you have completed all of the work items. Is that a lot to ask? Is that demanding perfection?

Why do we accept lower standards in the marine industry?????
 
unless its a factory warr. repair i would stay away from MM. In my exp. there a bunch of dumb asses that provide crap customer service. find a good local independent tec. The good ones actualy give a ****.
 

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