ImpulseIII
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Now there is a vision I can live without.
Lowrance and NMEA 2000
- Thread starter SeaSu
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- Feb 4, 2007
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- 1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
- Engines
- 3126 427HP TD transmissions
Don't distract Frank C from his iPhone assignment with this NMEA2000 stuff.
I think that iPhone thread was deleted....
- Nov 12, 2006
- 5,334
- Boat Info
- 1999 Sea Ray 330DA
Twin 7.4 MPI (310 propshaft HP) V-drives
- Engines
- Twin Mercury Marine marinized 7.4L L-29 V8s
Cast iron block w 4-bolt mains
If it's open source, it's not generally brought to market. Who's going to pay for something that's free? That does not mean it does not exist or that it is not useful. Go where the geeks go, SourceForge.com.
It didn't rain this weekend.
Best regards,
Frank
:huh: I give up on this one :smt101:wow::smt101
- Mar 10, 2004
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Leave the market thing off my comment then :grin:. I have never seen a home grown NMEA0183 thing on any boat I have ever been on. I'm sure they are out there though... What kind of NMEA0183 things have you made for your boat?
- Nov 12, 2006
- 5,334
- Boat Info
- 1999 Sea Ray 330DA
Twin 7.4 MPI (310 propshaft HP) V-drives
- Engines
- Twin Mercury Marine marinized 7.4L L-29 V8s
Cast iron block w 4-bolt mains
I download, edit, and then re-upload trip from the plotter to create routes. I can take the "bread-crumb" trail, clean it up, and also upload it back as a route. Off-line store routes for later use. Can also email them to others, if I want. Rewrote it in Java a few years ago, so it works on windoze, mac, or linux notebooks. I'm not religious that way.
The other thing is a device that I'll wait until my brother finishes the patent application before outlining. The advantage of having a patent attorney in the family is that the cost is more reasonable, but the time to file might not be so quick. Oh well!
Since I don't have a Gary boat, I don't need to check the engines while I'm in the head.
Best regards,
Frank
The other thing is a device that I'll wait until my brother finishes the patent application before outlining. The advantage of having a patent attorney in the family is that the cost is more reasonable, but the time to file might not be so quick. Oh well!
Since I don't have a Gary boat, I don't need to check the engines while I'm in the head.
Best regards,
Frank
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CJ Martin
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There will be no NMEA corn flow meter due to the $5K entry fee....
Most of the good PC-based navigation systems out there are 1-2 person shops... Look at http://rosepointnav.com/default.htm
He is always rated very high on reviews and I've looked at a lot and he's got the best thing going. However, it only does NMEA 0183 inputs... There are a few "free" chartplotting/display packages out there as well but I opted to pay the guy at rosepoint $600.. I think he also OEM's the stuff to Maptech now... so he's probably added a few employees but the point is he sure didn't start there.
I also use these guys multiplexers:
http://brookhouseonline.com/
Very good product... have to get it shipped in from Australia though... Their method of handling GPS failover is very nice and the ability to upload macros to the sentences coming through the mulitplexer is great. They are rock solid stable and get good reviews as well... I've tried a few others from the bigger names here in the US and they were unstable if the network got too chatty... probably buffer overflow issues.
Someone NEEDS to come out with a Mac based product... and it won't be a big company...
There are just a few...
Most of the good PC-based navigation systems out there are 1-2 person shops... Look at http://rosepointnav.com/default.htm
He is always rated very high on reviews and I've looked at a lot and he's got the best thing going. However, it only does NMEA 0183 inputs... There are a few "free" chartplotting/display packages out there as well but I opted to pay the guy at rosepoint $600.. I think he also OEM's the stuff to Maptech now... so he's probably added a few employees but the point is he sure didn't start there.
I also use these guys multiplexers:
http://brookhouseonline.com/
Very good product... have to get it shipped in from Australia though... Their method of handling GPS failover is very nice and the ability to upload macros to the sentences coming through the mulitplexer is great. They are rock solid stable and get good reviews as well... I've tried a few others from the bigger names here in the US and they were unstable if the network got too chatty... probably buffer overflow issues.
Someone NEEDS to come out with a Mac based product... and it won't be a big company...
There are just a few...
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- Feb 4, 2007
- 7,251
- Boat Info
- 1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
- Engines
- 3126 427HP TD transmissions
THE TURTLETONE NAVIGATOR
Now where did I put that "coding for dummies" book?
Now where did I put that "coding for dummies" book?
There is a difference between was and should :smt043
http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8099&highlight=iphone
:huh:
Was doing some reading over at The Hull Truth and found this:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=191301&start=1
That's not a good experience with Lowrance or NMEA 2K.... There are several other places I've seen complaints about the sensor configurations and signal dropping...
You never know though. It might just be a case of luddites bitching.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=191301&start=1
That's not a good experience with Lowrance or NMEA 2K.... There are several other places I've seen complaints about the sensor configurations and signal dropping...
You never know though. It might just be a case of luddites bitching.
- Feb 4, 2007
- 7,251
- Boat Info
- 1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
- Engines
- 3126 427HP TD transmissions
looks like they are using customers as beta testers.
unlvrebel
New Member
:smt119 OK, so this whole discussion has me thoroughly confused. I don't get any of this crap nor do I want to.
But...
I was under the impression that Northstar equipment was plug and play to Smartcraft. All of their literature still claims to be so. Is this not true anymore? All the Luddite wants is a piece of equipment the I can plug into the existing electronics of my Smartcraft system on my 2005 SD.
Does this still exist today?
But...
I was under the impression that Northstar equipment was plug and play to Smartcraft. All of their literature still claims to be so. Is this not true anymore? All the Luddite wants is a piece of equipment the I can plug into the existing electronics of my Smartcraft system on my 2005 SD.
Does this still exist today?
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- Nov 12, 2006
- 5,334
- Boat Info
- 1999 Sea Ray 330DA
Twin 7.4 MPI (310 propshaft HP) V-drives
- Engines
- Twin Mercury Marine marinized 7.4L L-29 V8s
Cast iron block w 4-bolt mains
The scary part of that whole thread on theHullTruth is what if that guy had a heterogeneous network? Imagine if he were foolish enough to have parts from Lowrance, Garmin, Raymarine, etc. Holy finger pointing, batman!
Best regards,
Frank C
Best regards,
Frank C
- Aug 8, 2008
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- A 300 DA 4kw Gen-set, central vac, electric head, windlass, AC/reverse heat, Lowrance 522ci GPS Char
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- twin 5.7 with Alpha drives
I know this is an old thread but I found it very interesting to read. I read it twice and I was not surprised to see a few people shoot down NMEA2000, I wonder if they would change their minds now that this has become the industry standard. There certainly were a lot of shots and name calling by a few of the uninformed. I installed the Lowrance system and the fuel flow. I will be installing the trim tab indicators in the fall as well as a second 10" HD plotter and the HD radar. I have been very happy with the entire system over this summer and a nice 6 week holiday on the boat.
I would be interested in the original poster and how he is doing with his system.
Ken
I would be interested in the original poster and how he is doing with his system.
Ken
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ActisenseTechSupport
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Answering several points here:
We are working with many software developers using our NGT-1 product, soon to be a TPG (Third Party Gateway) as soon as the NMEA sort out the spec requirements. This will allow developers to pay only $500 for the part of the spec they need and NMEA 2000 certification will be covered by the gateway product too. This will give rise to many more small operations releasing affordable N2K software.
Blue Heron are selling the NGT-1 for $199.95, the NGW-1 for $147.95 and the USB100 for $344.45.
We are shipping the NGW-1 (NMEA 0183 / NMEA 2000 converter) now, the current conversion list pdf is a link on the right of this page.
We have just sorted out our MAC drivers for all our USB products. We are working with MACEnc to get NMEA 2000 MAC software up and running.
NMEA 0183 is based on RS422 and NMEA 2000 is based on CANbus. Both foundations are readily available. The data in each protocol requires you to purchase the spec from the NMEA, and both contain proprietary sentences. I can't see the difference you are referring too?
The NMEA are a not for profit organisation, without the spec being paid for there would be no spec. Then you would only have proprietary protocols because no companies will collaborate with each other and the closed shop will be unavoidable. Even with the NMEA many companies still try to keep closed shop status.
It is a rumour.
