Late models without pods

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Richie89, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Richie89

    Richie89 Member

    511
    Aug 20, 2012
    Miami Beach, FL
    370 Venture
    Twin Mercury Verado 300's
    I am still searching for my next boat and i'm having a revelation that i really don't want pods. i don't really even care about a joystick. i would prefer both bow and stern thrusters actually. i'm also now leaning towards a bigger hulled boat (like a 50 Sundancer) that has some speed where i can run around above high 20's knots. all the new boats i've been looking at seem to have Volvo IPS and my internet searches are revealing some nightmares. How can i tell used Sea Ray models that don't have pods? I've seen some big Sundancers with Cummins engines that don't list pods (or specifically say Zeus). will i have to find an older boat to not get pods? i know the new 400 Fly has V Drives, but we are starting to think we want a bigger boat in case of any seas we might encounter and running inlets. thanks for any input.
     
  2. Bt Doctur

    Bt Doctur Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    New Jersey
    Ex SRV 240 Weekender twin
    in between
    Cant go wrong with straight inboards. Bells and whistles belong on trains, not boats
     
  3. BOB TYSON

    BOB TYSON New Member

    25
    Oct 5, 2017
    currently boatless.
    Cobalts 272,252,222
    Sea Ray 390 Express
    Chris Craft 21
    boatless
    I feel the same about pods. Im not going near them. Check out 420/44 dancers or 48 dancers. most are with v-drives.
     
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  4. j98052

    j98052 Member SILVER Sponsor

    101
    Jul 17, 2015
    Seattle
    2010 Sedan Bridge 520
    Cummins QSM11
    My 2010 Sedan bridge 520 has straight shafts with bow and stern thrusters with a joystick.
     
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  5. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    Just about everything prior to 2010 was available with either v-drives or inboards. All high horsepower boats, i.e. those requiring more than 800 hp/engine (580DA, 610DA,) are inboards because the the Zeus system in Sea Rays maxes out with the Cummins QSM-11 engine. After 2010, there was/is some resistance in acceptance of the Merc Zeus drives, plus, new hulls were initially designed around the pods and many older designs were retrofitted to accept pods. That means you will find some models that only had pods while most others with pods also had v-drive options since those hulls were carry overs. You just have to go shopping for the right model first then try to find an inboard boat.

    I have run 48DAs, a 50DA, 52DA's, a 54DA, 580DA's and 60/610 Da's all with v-drives or inboards. You aren't going to find easier boats to handle without thrusters than the 580DA or the 610DA, but with a bow thruster, I think pods would be a waste of money plus vastly more expensive to maintain and keep operating.
     
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  6. Capt. Rusty Higgins

    Capt. Rusty Higgins Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    675
    Nov 6, 2006
    Florida
    The yacht delivery captain for Sea Ray Boats Inc.
    mostly 1100hp CAT/MAN
    Richie...our new 460's (DA & Fly) are shaft driven boats......but hey, let's talk about this, and all our models when we visit in two weeks on the dock!! I'll show them all to you and offer my opinion on each.

    See ya soon!!

    Capt. R
     
  7. Z-Worthy

    Z-Worthy Member

    369
    Jun 20, 2014
    Sandusky, OH
    1997 400 Sundancer
    350hp CAT 3116s
    This seems like a common complaint within my group of boat friends. We all prefer buying boats in the 10yr old range and keeping them for 5-10yrs. Many of us are starting to research our next moves, and the natural progression is early 2010s 42-47’ Sundancers, but they’re all pods. So we’re stuck looking at the 420/44 (which really isn’t a night/day upgrade from my current 400, so that’s a hard sell), or going to a 48 or larger (which is really a lot more boat than I want/need). I find myself looking outside of the Sea Ray brand for our next boat, or just keeping what we have for another decade, which is a bummer.
     
  8. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Pods would be more risk than I’m willing to take here on the shallow south shore of Long Island.
     

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