Lake St Clair water levels 2020

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  1. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
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  2. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

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    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
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    Oh man that's going to put a damper on a lot of places that are already challenged by high water. Let's hope for a warm winter - for this reason alone.
     
  3. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
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    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    Last year we took the car across the ferry to Harson's Island on one of them gloomy days. We drove around the island exploring and went out to eat at Sans Souci. Almost all the locals in the restaurant were wearing muck boots. It was sad seeing all the flooding and sand bags. I can't imagine what another foot of water would do to that island.
     
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  4. Maky

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    Jul 13, 2017
    Lake St. Clair
    2008 240 Sundancer
    Single 5.0
    A good friend of mine works for the Macomb County Road Commission and spent most of the year running pumps within certain subdivisions. Last Sunday was no exception. Most catch basins were plugged at the lake since the outflow is lower than the lake level. The only way to drain excess water is to manually pump it. Yet only a handful of residents sandbagged their properties.

    Seeing this time of year should be considered low lake level.... Look out!
     
  5. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    I’ve read 4-6” from a few different articles. Never 12”!! That’s insane and can’t even imagine

    This is a scary quote since we’re 11” above last year.
    "We're at the lowest point of the year right now and from this point forward water levels will rise."
     
  6. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    "add - build one more step on boat steps to winter project list"....:)
     
  7. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
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    The forecast updated for Michigan And Huron is worse. The prediction is now higher that the all time record in 1986. This is going to be bad. Here is a link to the charts:
    https://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Miss...Monthly-Bulletin-of-Great-Lakes-Water-Levels/

    you should see the shoreline loss on areas with dynamic shoreline (beach). Grand Bend beach community on Huron has no beach any more. At our cottage on Georgian Bay we lost 30 ft of beach and dune this past year and about 60 ft since we bought in 2001. The sand is somewhere out in the lake now. Some places will be flooded out this coming summer.

    Climate change is real. It’s the extremes that will be more frequent. Storms and cyclical patterns as well.
     
  8. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
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    This dune used to be 60 ft from the water. 39CFD156-EB59-4892-A47B-9F685DC4D19B.jpeg
     
  9. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Well one thing we can likely bet on - wait 10-15 years and we'll all be complaining about how low the water is.

    There are handles mounted to the dock posts in my slip that are below water right now. They are there from the 90's/00's to help pull yourself up and out of a 40'+ boat. I currently use 3 steps to get up and into my boat.

    It'll come back...but not before doing a bit of rearranging of the shoreline...
     
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  10. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I am not directing this at you Creekwood because everyone says it... Climate change is the root cause for everything it seems. 40 & 50 years ago fires and flooding was a sign that the second coming of Christ was imminent. Today it's climate change... another sign we have lost god.

    All the records that were broken this year were from 1918... except Michigan you guys fell short again by 1". Record lows were in 2013. Extremes are now 100 years a part.

    For every research group that says it is because of climate change there is another group that says it isn't Climate change. Just like when Jesus was coming...half said he is the other half said he isn't. I think the isnt's are winning so far :)
     
  11. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
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    No offence taken. No one really knows how the earths climate reacts to all the various things. One good volcano eruption and all changes and would make CO2 impact insignificant by comparison. I actually don’t think we should be spending billions to try to change mother nature. Especially by the massive lies we are being told that taxing CO2 emissions has meaningful effect on output. But it does raise tax revenues for bloated government spending.
     
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  12. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_4230.JPG Predictions are just that. Educated guesses which may be right or wrong. On 12/6/2019 ( today) Lake Michigan is exactly at the 1986 record level for 12/6/1986. We have watched lake levels in our current home since 1977 so we have seen the high records as well as one which matched the low level from the 1960s. It is too soon to say what 2020 will bring. 1987 was better than 1986 and levels improved every year following that record year for many years to follow. Unless you own a home on a bluff or in a flood plan these water levels are not worth worrying about since we have no control over what happens. My sympathies do go out to those with high water issues. I'll post a pic of what today's record matching level looks like.
     
  13. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_4230.JPG This water level is exactly the same as 1986 for today's date. That means in 2020 we are all going to die. IMG_5050.JPG
     
  14. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
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    I guess considering the annual flooding in many parts of the continent to varying degrees, the high water issues on the Great Lakes are minor. I am lucky with our cottage that it is high enough to be out of harms way unless levels rise another 5 ft. If that happens, North America has far more to worry about than my shrinking little piece of heaven!

    I just hope our marina's infrastructure is able to deal with next year's predicted rise if it comes true. Docks are floating, but parking lot just started to get its toes wet last summer. A foot more water will be an issue.

    Oh, and SBW, you are not on open water so rising water is not impacting you. Anywhere with open water/beach on the great lakes is being heavily impacted because of the combination of high water and wave and storm action. You would be more concerned too if it carved 60 feet off your waterfront. Go out and pace off 60ft and visualize what your place would look like and you might have more empathy.
     
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  15. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_4230.JPG We are impacted by the idiots who wake our property every day during boating season Creekwood. We spent thousands of dollars repairing landscaping and building a new seawall in 1986. We still have some damage to landscaping from this summer's crop of lawbreaking idiots and will wait for levels to go down before making repairs. While lake front owners with shoreline losses are in an unfortunate situation, there is very little any of us can do about forces of nature and the morons who disrespect our boating laws.
     
  16. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
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    One solution. Potato gun!
     
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  17. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
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    Here is a nearby neighbour’s place. It’s a relatively new multi million dollar home that was built well back and high from the beach at the time. Lots of nice stonework.

    3BF931EB-8854-4548-9CD7-E629A04BCF20.jpeg
     
  18. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

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    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
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    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    This is an even worse situation. If you've been to the Keys in the past few years you know that it doesn't take much of a rise in sea levels to clobber the ONLY road in and out. As a side note my wife wanted me to buy an investment property in Key Colony Beach - it was about a year before the hurricane hit. Glad we didn't.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-keys-deliver-hard-message-131505781.html
     
  19. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    With this high water, the rocks I hit a couple years ago at Isle Royale aren't a problem now. We gotta think positive.:p
     
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  20. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    It would be hard to stay positive if you're a prop shop
     

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