Lake Saint Clair Peeps

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  1. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    545
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Hey Brent
    We just came back from there. It’s pretty straight forward entering. They have floating docks and it’s a nice marina. Where the docks meet land it could be wet though. Depending on wind conditions. It’ll literally fluctuate hourly. Kinda wild. Roller keeps his boat there so I’m sure he’ll chime in.
     
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  2. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    Yeah, there aren't any real tricks to the approach - especially with the depths how they are this year!

    Having said that, plot a course all the way to the entrance. Range markers and buoys for the shipping channel can confuse boaters into going out of their way. The entrance opens away from your approach, but as long as you have a waypoint it will be obvious enough.

    The dockhands don't carry radios. (don't get me started)

    CP wants you to stop at the fuel pier or transient wall to check in before taking your dock. It's a nice fuel pier, so you may was well head directly to the copper-roofed hut at the end of the pier and shout to them that you want some diesel. If one of your crew can walk down the pier to the office while you're fueling, you'll be 1 step ahead.

    They'll assign you to the near-side of pier 11, which is the one just past the fuel pier / Famous Dave's. Pier 11 doesn't have center pilings between slips, so if you want the assistance of a dockhand over there, you'll have to ask for it. If you don't have a well-neighbor, it's no big deal even in wind. The fingers have uprights and there's plenty of room to maneuver.

    Don't buy park tickets at the gate - you'll get better packages and offers at the marina office.
     
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  3. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    As great lakes said it's as simple as it looks... Coming into the bay I don't get too close to cedar point shore but that's it. Across from there where the arrow is pointed is a nice sandy bottom anchorage to take the boat or dingy over for a swim... Have fun !!

    Cedar point.png
     
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  4. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    Rich - sorry I missed you during your visit. I saw your boats, but not when they appeared to be occupied!

    Brent, it will likely take you a lot less than 5.5 hours. It's almost exactly 100 statute miles from MacRay, so maybe 105 from Fair Haven? You'll also pick up 1-3 mph while in the river.

    Famous Dave's is obvious, but there's another restaurant in the marina next to the pool called Bay Harbor. Honestly, it can suck, especially at those prices, but you can also ask for bar menu for additional choices and service tends to be good.

    Make sure to visit the Breakers Hotel. It's been completely renovated, has a few restaurants, bars and takes much more advantage of the beautiful beach than it did in the past. With tickets, you can walk through the park to the hotel, but there's also a free shuttle from your parking lot. There's a courtesy phone to call the for the shuttle at the corner of the building closest to your pier.
     
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  5. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I just heard the other day that the river is flowing twice as fast as it typically does... That would be 5/6mph over the speed at cruising rpm... That would be fun... one way anyway :)
     
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  6. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    Thanks for the arrow Blue, that will be nice to remember for the next time we visit.
     
  7. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    wow. Well, you and I have the solution to that anyway: go to Erie, don't go back. :D
     
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  8. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    826
    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    Don't even try it. You guys miss us and the best lake.:D:p:D:p:D
     
  9. gasketguy

    gasketguy Active Member

    149
    Nov 11, 2015
    Harrison Township Michigan
    330 1996 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4
    Sorry for snappy response..had misread in my head your response I apologize..have had a very difficult boating season up to this point and frustration is setting in..correct no generator battery that I replaced was under bench starboard side and that is the motor I'm having a problem starting from standard ignition switch without having to use emergency ignition switch..plan on just trying to go threw everything this weekend
     
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  10. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    Well I could've been more clear in making my point about variables in battery configurations. Sorry about that, and your your boating season so far.

    This might be simple: When batteries are connected to each other in parallel (neg to neg, pos to pos), they become a battery "bank" and the circuit sees them as a single 12V battery. If that bank was weak, chances are very high that BOTH batteries had problems. Now that you have a new battery and an old battery linked together, you're only going to get the average (more or less) of what each can deliver. Batteries in banks have to be replaced in pairs. If the battery on the port side is old, it's demanding current from the charger that the new battery linked to it doesn't need. That will shorten the life of the new battery, and possibly drastically. Go buy another battery that matches the new one asap. I'm guessing that will solve the problem, but if not, it's still a necessary purchase.
     
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  11. gasketguy

    gasketguy Active Member

    149
    Nov 11, 2015
    Harrison Township Michigan
    330 1996 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4
    Awesome explanation thank you for taking the time I will buy another battery on my to the boat and fingers crossed. I'm wondering if my whole thought is wrong and the one single battery in engine compartment is the only battery used for starting..gonna pull cables and see what exactly is still working/starting..but honestly thanks again..words that are typed aren't always read they way they were meant so again I apologize for being snappy Rollr
     
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  12. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    You have an awesome boat - you should be having an awesome boating season!!!

    I had a ‘96 330DA. One of the things I noticed when talking to other owners was how different the battery configuration could be. The 330 was offered with different engines, drives, with or without a generator and the production run was long, so if a configuration is possible, it probably exists!

    Sea Ray’s 12V strategy was fairly consistent however. Two banks for boats w/o a genny. One dedicated to starting one engine and “critical systems” such as engine hatch lift, nav systems/lights, CO detectors, some pumps etc. This may be a single battery, or 2 in parallel. The other bank does double duty of starting the other engine, and running the “house” systems: interior lights, fridge, water pump, radio etc. This bank typically has a higher capacity than the other.

    Yes, that’s a great idea: move around the boat to see what operates from the single battery and record that. (don’t forget sump and bilge pumps) Don’t listen to anyone else about which runs from which - including me!
     
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  13. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    There you go again with the "fingers crossed" thingy.:D:D:D:D
     
  14. gasketguy

    gasketguy Active Member

    149
    Nov 11, 2015
    Harrison Township Michigan
    330 1996 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4
    Damnit Joe! Rollr I had no idea SeaRay did multiple setups figured one maybe two ways basically Gen or not..so that really was a very open ended question thank you for all the input!!
     
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  15. SweetEmotion

    SweetEmotion New Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    28
    Mar 19, 2018
    MacRay Harbor, MI
    450 Sundancer 2010
    T-Zeus Cummins QSB 480
    Hello Joe,
    Well I have to apologize for not being on here much at all and didn't realize who you were back in May when you threw a shout out my way. Figured other friendly boating neighbor. But now after the weekend I can put all of this together.

    I'm sorry if I looked confused as I was trying to piece together how I knew you. But when you mentioned Club Sea Ray, I knew who you had to of been. What didn't help in my recollection was the night before, Jen (Wife) and I were at the Tiki Bar and Travis (bartender) kept feeding us shots. With that said, it was a tough morning/afternoon when I saw you. Back on the 4th of July I had met Scott (gasket man) over at the Tiki Bar. Great guy.

    Again Joe, it was great meeting you in person as well as your wife. I'll keep my eyes open for you at M&R's. I hate that this month is flying by as the summer will be coming to a close in another month.

    Cheers,
    Brad
     
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  16. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    826
    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    Brad no problem, That Tiki Bar can do that to you :D. Glad you're back in the water. It's funny how these dang boats never break in the winter:D:D. We were in kind of a hurry anyway so I couldn't really explain how I knew it was you (your golf cart and Rich's map of the marina). When we take our ride out to Mr. Mac I always see your cart sitting in your space. Nice meeting you to and I'll keep my eyes open also. Won't be in such a hurry next time.
     
  17. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    545
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Brad, I figured that was you out there at poormans with the Dilly Dilly flag. Cheers buddy
     
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  18. gasketguy

    gasketguy Active Member

    149
    Nov 11, 2015
    Harrison Township Michigan
    330 1996 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4
    Damn tiki bar to blame again! Brad you gotta watch out for the infamous Great Lakes..just saying..guys a handful of chaos!‍
     
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  19. Ezsteps

    Ezsteps Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    826
    Nov 14, 2015
    Lake St. Clair-- Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    1999 400 Sundancer, YL310 Zodiac
    7.4 Mercuisers Horizons 380 hp ea., 9.9 hp Mercury
    I'll vouch for this statement.....:D:D:D
     
  20. SweetEmotion

    SweetEmotion New Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    28
    Mar 19, 2018
    MacRay Harbor, MI
    450 Sundancer 2010
    T-Zeus Cummins QSB 480
    Indeed it was. Yea after that night at the Tiki Bar Jen and I thought, "hey, lets spend the night out on the water" So we did at poormans. Cheers back at ya Rich!
     

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