Just By Chance - Winter Mods Update #2

Jacob

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Sep 30, 2007
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Vancouver Island
Boat Info
1998 Bayliner 4788 (sold).
1999 Sea Ray 480 DB (sold)
2005 Grady-White Marlin 300
Engines
Yamaha F250's
For those considering a carpet update, this may be of interest;

1. Carpet removal took a crew of 2 professionals and myself a full day. Sea Ray must have equity in a glue and staple factory. The old carpet was not meant to come out easily.
For ease of access, we removed some of the furniture, rope lights and the stairs.

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The crew took the old pieces to their shop and used them as templates for the new stuff. They returned the next day to do the install. Here is the end result:

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Summary:

- 2 days of owner's time, before and after the install to remove and reinstall furniture components, plus clean up the mess.

- 2.5 days of professional 2 man crew time.

- 28 yards of carpet (55 ounce nylon) plus new pad.

- 5 gallons of adhesive. (Pad is glued to floor and carpet is glued to pad)


We have used this crew before, both in residential and boat projects. These guys know their way around boats and it shows.

Jacob
 
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Very nice work. Why did you stay with basically the same carpet that was in the boat? To keep it looking stock? Where did you get it?

Is that TV cabinet different? I thought the 98/99 480's had the TV cabinet lower... The one you have looks like mine.

Looks great!
 
Very nice work. Why did you stay with basically the same carpet that was in the boat? To keep it looking stock? Where did you get it?

Is that TV cabinet different? I thought the 98/99 480's had the TV cabinet lower... The one you have looks like mine.

Looks great!

We liked the "pin dot" style of carpet but wanted a color change and a better grade. This is a vast improvement over the factory carpet which was white and very hard to keep clean, even with the carpet runners. This carpet is Natiq Home Mayfair II, made by Kraus. Color is Enkoi, sort of a mushroom color. Got it at at local carpet supplier.

From a resale perspective, this carpet will go with any decorating scheme.

The TV was a custom cabinet, done by the first owner for a 32" flat panel LCD screen. Whoever did the work did a first class job as the unit looks a factory job.
 
I have another stupid question. The salon area.. as well as the area by the hardwood for the galley... did you glue that down? I've thought about re-carpeting mine as this will be our 7th season on the boat but there is an engine hatch under the salon carpet. The carpet on my boat is not glued in the salon area but held in place with the canvas cover snaps and staples around the wood galley floor. Because of that, I thought about having an edge sewn on the carpet for the salon/galley and make the removal easier and getting rid of any staples. I've seen that approach on the Viking Sport Cruisers I've been on. Did you address that at all or did you just glue it in the salon and not worry about it?
 
I have another stupid question. The salon area.. as well as the area by the hardwood for the galley... did you glue that down? I've thought about re-carpeting mine as this will be our 7th season on the boat but there is an engine hatch under the salon carpet. The carpet on my boat is not glued in the salon area but held in place with the canvas cover snaps and staples around the wood galley floor. Because of that, I thought about having an edge sewn on the carpet for the salon/galley and make the removal easier and getting rid of any staples. I've seen that approach on the Viking Sport Cruisers I've been on. Did you address that at all or did you just glue it in the salon and not worry about it?

I thought about the same hatch issue, anticipating the need to lift the hatch if it were necessary to do a major on an engine. As it turns out, the "hatch" on our 48 is actually a very large removable floor; one which extends under the couch, galley cabinets and galley floor. Further, the hatch sections are cross bolted in and sealed with caulking (5200 or something equally miserable to remove). So creating a carpet with sewn edges to facilitate removing the hatch by avoiding the staples issue would be pointless. Removing the hatch is a major procedure on our boat and tearing up the carpet would be the least of our troubles. Perhaps your 48 is different. One would be tempted to do an in-frame rebuild as an alternative.

Another newer (2003 or so) 48 sedan bridge in our marina had the starboard transmission removed. Rather than remove the hatch, the mechanic cut away part of the fiberglass floor to provide access. I notice the new 52 sedan bridge has a hatch of sorts extending from the companionway stairs to mid galley. Maybe Sea Ray changed the design for engine room access on the new boats.

Since the entire salon floor is fiberglass on the 48, we went with glue and stapled the edges to the plywood flange on the curved galley floor.
 
They must have changed the floor layout then... I've actually had that hatch off:

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To fix a bracket on the top of that engine. The only thing that had to be removed was the cabinet that sticks out between the galley and the salon area. Mine did not go under the sofa. For the cabinet, it was 2 L-brackets on the floor and 4 screws inside the cabinet against the other cabinets. The hatch joint had regular silicon caulk in it and it had screws all the way around and about a half dozen small bolts between the two hatch halves. I got the floor out in about an hour. I wish it was easier as that access would make life soooo much easier to service the engines. That's why I asked... I have thought about doing some "cool mods" to that to make life simpler... but it's a pipe dream.
 
Looks like yours is the same as ours on the starboard side. Maybe the port side is different.

BTW, here is a closer look at the TV cabinet, done by the first owner. This modification actually blocks out more of the starboard window than the factory version.

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