Impeachment

Woody said:
The aid to Ukraine was held up and you'd think they ran out of bullets and were over run by Russians the next day according to Schiff. Adam Schiff's lip trembles when he talks of how poorly Trump treated the Ukraine. He said the Ukraine was protecting our 10's of thousands of military personnel in Europe, that the Ukraine is protecting mainland USA even. If it wasn't for them we'd be battling the evil Ruskies on our own shores.:eek:
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Iprof said:
Your not interested in the truth are you?
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Adam Schiff said these very things this week to the Senators that will be deciding Trumps fate. It's truth, he did.
 
The "truth?" You're jocking, right. If you think the dems will give you the truth, good luck.
 
susanandlance said:
I didn't know John Bolton was a Dem????
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You think Bolton is "telling" the truth? Or just maybe he's trying to sell books? Fact is, the NYTs version of the "truth" is unverified. They didn't read Bolton's manuscript. So they have no clue what's there. They just printed some version of an anonymous source's account. History shows they are usually either over hyped or flat out wrong. So I'm taking the under on Bolton.
 
Golfman25 said:
The "truth?" You're jocking, right. If you think the dems will give you the truth, good luck.
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Bolton and Trump are Democrats? While Trump has been a Dem longer than a Republican and he spends money like a drunken sailor and plays more golf than any President. This impeachment is about Trump and if he committed an offence that warrants removal from office. I would like to know the truth regardless of the consequences. There has been answers to questions so far that are giving us a clearer picture to the truth.
 
Iprof said:
Bolton and Trump are Democrats? While Trump has been a Dem longer than a Republican and he spends money like a drunken sailor and plays more golf than any President. This impeachment is about Trump and if he committed an offence that warrants removal from office. I would like to know the truth regardless of the consequences. There has been answers to questions so far that are giving us a clearer picture to the truth.
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No matter how you view the evidence, he didn't commit an "offense." It is entirely appropriate to investigate the Biden's conduct. The fact that it may damage Joe's presidential campaign is secondary. Two birds, one stone. This whole thing is a diversion because the orange man is bad. Total TDS.
 
Democrats conveniently disregard time frames as well. Aid was withheld in February of 2019. Joe Biden didn't enter the primaries until April of 2019......so there's that....

I would call withholding "US taxpayer dollars" from a corrupt Government/Country until the corruption is straightened out, "due diligence", and would expect that from any president.
 
Golfman25 said:
No matter how you view the evidence, he didn't commit an "offense." It is entirely appropriate to investigate the Biden's conduct. The fact that it may damage Joe's presidential campaign is secondary. Two birds, one stone. This whole thing is a diversion because the orange man is bad. Total TDS.
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The only 'evidence' is the transcripts that Trump released. Then you have Zelensky's confirmation about 'no pressure'. Everything else is hearsay.
 
Golfman25 said:
No matter how you view the evidence, he didn't commit an "offense." It is entirely appropriate to investigate the Biden's conduct. The fact that it may damage Joe's presidential campaign is secondary. Two birds, one stone. This whole thing is a diversion because the orange man is bad. Total TDS.
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Your making a judgement without hearing the evidence. When Trump withheld aid to other countries in 2017, 2018, 2019 he followed the procedure and notified congress first and why. When Ukraine had a corrupt government in 2017, 2018 Trump didn't call for an investigation in corruption then. He waited till after a new government was elected that Trump praised to cut their military aid. Now Trumps lawyers have said Trump did stop the aid to Ukraine based on them investigating Biden was for "National Security" It seems that as the evidence comes out Trumps defence keeps changing. He has gone from no quid pro quo to yes I did that but it's not impeachable.
It's the voters that will probally decide if Trump should be removed from office unfortunately a lot of GOP senators will pay the price.
 
Iprof said:
Your making a judgement without hearing the evidence. When Trump withheld aid to other countries in 2017, 2018, 2019 he followed the procedure and notified congress first and why. When Ukraine had a corrupt government in 2017, 2018 Trump didn't call for an investigation in corruption then. He waited till after a new government was elected that Trump praised to cut their military aid. Now Trumps lawyers have said Trump did stop the aid to Ukraine based on them investigating Biden was for "National Security" It seems that as the evidence comes out Trumps defence keeps changing. He has gone from no quid pro quo to yes I did that but it's not impeachable.
It's the voters that will probally decide if Trump should be removed from office unfortunately a lot of GOP senators will pay the price.
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Question....when the voters re-elect Trump in 2020 will you leave him alone then...or will you continue to bitch and support the new harassment that the swamp surely will throw his way.
 
Iprof said:
Your making a judgement without hearing the evidence. When Trump withheld aid to other countries in 2017, 2018, 2019 he followed the procedure and notified congress first and why. When Ukraine had a corrupt government in 2017, 2018 Trump didn't call for an investigation in corruption then. He waited till after a new government was elected that Trump praised to cut their military aid. Now Trumps lawyers have said Trump did stop the aid to Ukraine based on them investigating Biden was for "National Security" It seems that as the evidence comes out Trumps defence keeps changing. He has gone from no quid pro quo to yes I did that but it's not impeachable.
It's the voters that will probally decide if Trump should be removed from office unfortunately a lot of GOP senators will pay the price.
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So what. Government is so big, you can't attack everything at once. Biden jumping into the race and the new Ukraine President are perfect times to address the issues.
 
Woody said:
Question....when the voters re-elect Trump in 2020 will you leave him alone then...or will you continue to bitch and support the new harassment that the swamp surely will throw his way.
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He had my support in 2016 but not this time no way.
Asking for the truth is bitching and harassment, not in my books. I don't care which party they belong to the President should be a role model to the people should have integrity and honesty.
 
Iprof said:
He had my support in 2016 but not this time no way.
Asking for the truth is bitching and harassment, not in my books. I don't care which party they belong to the President should be a role model to the people should have integrity and honesty.
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Well BJ Billy is my role model. Now, where is my intern. :)
 
Golfman25 said:
You think Bolton is "telling" the truth? Or just maybe he's trying to sell books? Fact is, the NYTs version of the "truth" is unverified. They didn't read Bolton's manuscript. So they have no clue what's there. They just printed some version of an anonymous source's account. History shows they are usually either over hyped or flat out wrong. So I'm taking the under on Bolton.
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Golfman25 said:
So what. Government is so big, you can't attack everything at once. Biden jumping into the race and the new Ukraine President are perfect times to address the issues.
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Trump went after the Bidens because they were a threat, it's just that simple, send crazy Rudy to get info on the Bidens…..Like I said before Golfman, trump was right when he said you guys would vote for him even if he shot someone on 5th avenue...…...
 
Woody said:
Question....when the voters re-elect Trump in 2020 will you leave him alone then...or will you continue to bitch and support the new harassment that the swamp surely will throw his way.
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Trump is part of the swamp...…..
 
Iprof said:
He had my support in 2016 but not this time no way.
Asking for the truth is bitching and harassment, not in my books. I don't care which party they belong to the President should be a role model to the people should have integrity and honesty.
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There' NO integrity and honesty in this President, throw his arse out of office and let Pence give it a try, then go after Biden in a different case, I don't like Biden much anyway..... :)
 
I still cannot believe Biden’s boy had such a sweet deal. Should be investigated and would be if it was my
Enterprise. Glad someone had the balls
To call it out.
Still needs looked at in depth.
 
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