I voted with my wallet........

Discussion in 'The Tiki Bar' started by Gofirstclass, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. skibum

    skibum Well-Known Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Perry Hall, MD
    2005 Sundancer 260
    496 Magnum HO
    You are correct. I was not precise in my choice of words. In hindsight, I should have said something along the lines of they should have insisted on receiving an explanation. It's easy to walk away from a bad situation and assume that you know what happened when in reality the real reason may be something completely different than what you thought it was.
     
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  2. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    GFC, I made no assessment of you, you misunderstood what I said. After telling us about your kids you asked what appeared to be a rhetorical question, ‘Am I racist ?’ I answered it anyway, I said ‘I dunno, but you certainly still could be’.

    When you responded with your chest all puffed up I realized you misunderstood, so I gave an explanation.
     
  3. NorCal Boater

    NorCal Boater Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2008
    Covington, LA
    Cobalt CM23
    GM SB 383" Stroker" Alpha Gen I
    In junior high school, about 50 years ago, I went to a school that was about 50% black. As a skinny white kid I got my ass kicked, was harassed, punched, spit on and had my lunch money stolen on a weekly basis by the black kids....as di a number of other white kids. I did nothing to provoke them....in fact, I did all I could to avoid them. If you, stood up, you got worse, if you reported them, you got worse, if you fought back, you got worse. Do I hate black people? No....I hate assholes that pick on weaker people for no reason. (I guess that's bullying now)

    I have little tolerance for anyone that wants something for nothing, picks on weaker people unjustly, etc. You know all the statements. We all have choices. Some people make poor choices and with poor choices come consequences. Some don't accept the consequences for their actions. Those individuals get hurt. Period
     
  4. boatman37

    boatman37 Active Member

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    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer
    5.7 Merc
    Exactly!
     
  5. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Ditto. Exactly.
     
  6. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    Really? He misunderstood? I misunderstood?
    Kinda sounds like you got the exact reaction you were looking for! See your quote immediately below:

    What your post effectively said was "Its great that you do all theses things but it still does not prove you're not a racist" And that was directed specifically at GFC's life and activities. Bad idea or at a minimum, poorly worded.

    I'd believe you did not mean it that way, but that post came off as insulting.

    Let me prove my point. First lets look at your question:
    Are you a pedophile Woody? Please provide proof that you are not and remember just because you have never been convicted or even charged does not mean you are not one so let us know.

    Still could be? Do you realize that that statement could be construed as accusing him of being a racist at some point in his life!?

    You threw a guilty until proven innocent style of comment and directed it at GFC. Forgive me if I say it was a bad post.

    Maybe you can now answer your own question:
    My vote is for the latter.
     
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  7. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Norhshore, Go read the posts in order and quit taking things out of context so you can stir the pot.

    It suggests his son is proof he couldn't be racist so I responded to his question with this.

    I tried to future explain that post with my next one.

    Nothing like a loaded question, no presupposition at all. In fact I didn't ask any question, I simply responded to his.
     
  8. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    I'm sorry, did you mention something about pot stirring?
    Your post was lousy Woody, thats all I'm saying.

    (BTW:You never answered the pedophile question
    We know your not one, but you could be! :D)
     
  9. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I think your post should be removed.:p

    Maybe not, it would be a shame to remove something you worked so hard on.
     
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  10. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    Well, that is certainly more polite than the way it came across in the original email.

    Woody.jpg




    Try not to get mad when the 'boomerang of stupidity' you threw comes back and hits you in the face. And thanks for unequivocally proving my point.


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  11. NorCal Boater

    NorCal Boater Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2008
    Covington, LA
    Cobalt CM23
    GM SB 383" Stroker" Alpha Gen I
    One of the things I've always liked on this forum is that we have always been willing to discuss all topics and we always respected each other. We most often kept responses and comments from becoming personal. We are now getting close to crossing that line....if it hasn't been crossed already.

    This started as a post about the NFL and the players protesting during the National Anthem. That topic hasn't been mentioned in about 50-60 posts....and I am also guilty of getting off topic as well. Personally I feel it's time to shut this post down....before someone says something that seriously offends and I don't think anyone truly wants to do that. It might be time for Jim to do just that. Not as censorship but as a means of maintaining the respect for all

    I am no longer a Sea Ray owner. I have not owned one in about 5 years. I now own a Cobalt and recently, another CSR member and, also a Cobalt owner, started a Cobalt Forum. We will never have as many members as CSR as there just aren't the number of boats produced and therefore we are not seeing the "Off-season" activity there as we do here. I was asked to be an administrator of that forum and one of the things I wanted to do was try and keep interest in the forum going during the winter so I asked the members for ideas on topics. The one thing that every responder said was, "....please, no politics." I think this thread is an illustration of why people would ask that.

    I am not calling out anyone but this thread has taken a turn that makes me uncomfortable. It's kind of like watching a husband and wife get in an argument at a party. It makes you kind of want to turn away.

    I know we all have opinions, analogies and points to make but someone needs to say...."enough", before this gets out of hand. "Can't we all just get along?" --Rodney King o_O
     
  12. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Northshore, I know your not but you could be.
     
  13. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    I'm good! If Woody is, consider it over.
    Actually, I'm good either way.
     
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  14. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Going into the holding tank for a moment to talk to Northshore was an error on my part. For that I apologize to the rest of the CSR crew. But for Northshore to throw in the subject of pedophilia, that's going to far and nothing but pure assholery....Na, I'm not good with it at all.
     
  15. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    But Woody c'mon! I never said you were one.
    Just that you could be. Just like you said GFC could be a racist.
     
  16. OllieC

    OllieC Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
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  17. ttmott

    ttmott Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    Isn't a Cobalt a minority on this forum? And you own one??
    Alert the press; they need to run with this!
    Just had to throw that one down:)
     
  18. NorCal Boater

    NorCal Boater Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2008
    Covington, LA
    Cobalt CM23
    GM SB 383" Stroker" Alpha Gen I
    Yep....I am proud to say I do own a Cobalt. A 1985 CM23. What I consider to be one of the prettiest boats ever made....by any manufacturer. It's currently under going a restoration/refurbishment. The first picture below is actually a 1983 belonging to a friend. Mine is below. My helm is currently out of my boat being rebuilt with new instruments, switches and wiring.

    There were only 89 of these boats made over the 3 year production.
    1983 CM23.jpg
    IMAG0055.jpg
     
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