I have a mess on my hands.

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  1. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    I took the cover off my boat for hurricane Irma and have been so busy I kept forgetting to put it back on. I got up in it last night to look and something and found that there was a bunch of leaves in the boat and they stopped up the drain so there is a couple of inches of water sitting in it. Plus there is mold all over the seat now. It's gonna take a full day of detailing to get it cleaned up. AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Jmac572

    Jmac572 Member

    105
    Dec 20, 2016
    Plymouth, MA
    "Freedom"
    2017 Sea Ray 290 SDX
    Twin 225 Verado Outboards
    Ouch.... That Floridian humidity is no friend to boat vinyl
     
  3. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Oh man, sympathies. Mold, rrrrrr!

    On the other hand, there are stories of owners who can only dream of such little damage so,

    Maybe make the best of it and take a bunch of CD’s full of music that’ll make the day “go quicker”???
     
  4. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    I think I'm gonna wait just a few more weeks and then spend the entire weekend buffing the entire haul and then doing a complete interior detail. We are finally getting some days in the mid 80's and I would prefer to do it when it's just a few degrees cooler. I bought the first weekend of Aug. and I can still see the registration numbers from the previous owner. What do you guys recommend using to trying to buff it out with?
     
  5. OllieC

    OllieC Member SILVER Sponsor

    465
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    This year after patching up a couple of dings, I used some 3M Finesse It polish. I was extremely impressed and brought a mirror shine.
    Afterward, don't forget to put a coat of wax on it. There is no wax in the 3M product.
     
  6. sfergson727

    sfergson727 Administrator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 12, 2007
    Washington Park Marina, Michigan City
    '07 340 DA, E97, A75, VV4, Soft Top
    '12 Boston Whaler 15 Montauk
    8.1 Mercruiser V-Drives, Mercury 60 HP Bigfoot
    AHHHHHH? That is more a sound of relief. Perhaps you meant ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!? ;)

    Regardless, hope you get it cleaned up quickly!


     
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  7. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    Nice one sfergson! OllieC I'll give it a try, Thx.
     
  8. MDeddy

    MDeddy New Member

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    Oct 28, 2017
    1990,27'DA
    454 Mercruiser w/ Bravo
    Got you beat- Bought 27'DA. sailed across the bay. 2 days later Bendix would not engage starter , Old hammer trick didn't work. Storm came up and beat it against the pilings. Next day w/rope pulled it to lift. By hand at 73 it wasn't square but it was out harm? It was racked so cabin door would not close, so what. sent canvas to be repaired. An owl said this is a great place to raise a brood. Put only half of the repaired top on but didn't want to hurt them. Another Chesapeake wind storm came and ripped the top apart again. Birds grew and left. I now have a non starting boat, destroyed canvas with a cabin FULL of BONES & Guano. These were BIG owls.
     
  9. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    Wow MDeddy you did have a mess on your hands. Sorry to hear it.
     
  10. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    I have to post this. I have been trying several things to get the mold/mildew off my seats. I tried Simple Green, Mr. Clean Magic Erasers, Oxiclean, Bar Keepers Friend, etc... Nothing was getting it. I used bleach on areas that didn't have stitching on it and then hosed it down well after and that seemed to be the only thing that was getting the majority of it. Then I tried the Starbrite Mildew Stain Remover. OMG why didn't I start with this? I sprayed it on and let it sit. After 5 minutes or less of sitting in most cases I could just wipe it off. I some spots I hit it with a brush, but when done it looked great!
     
  11. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    ^^^This^^^ is the kind of info- (and knowledge- / experience-) sharing that make this forum so awesome!

    Slim, your sharing this info is gonna make my Admirals life a LOT more pleasant and I don’t imagine I have to tell you how that is gonna affect MY life , ha-ha! :)

    thank ye, Thank Ye, THANK YE!

    So, in addition to “Home Armor EZ House Wash” (pic attached and which another CSR member posted on and we’ve had neighbors confirm is “the bomb” on mold stains!) it appears we now have TWO OPTIONS for effective removal of mold and the stains it leaves behind.
    Gotta LOVE this info sharing!!!
     

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  12. GoFastr

    GoFastr Cool Runnings GOLD Sponsor

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    Jan 20, 2016
    Cayman Islands
    2003 Sea Ray 270 SunDeck MX 6.2L MPI w/Bravo III
    Tow: 2012 Ford F150 Raptor SVT
    Mercruiser MX 6.2L MPI w/Bravo III
    As another suggestion, you might also want to try Marine 31.
     
  13. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Looks like they’re both avail. via Amazon so, thanks!
     
  14. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    One thing to keep in mind guys is that most mold/mildew products that work well have... bleach in them. I'm not saying don't use them - I use them, and diluted bleach all the time. Just mentioning that so you don't think they're safe on the stitching - Slim, I noticed you said you purposefully avoided the stitching.

    As far as how each product works, a side by side test would be interesting. Using one product, then another on the same spot is not valid as the first one could have "softened" the mold (for lack of a better term). However, using two or three products on the same surface, but sectioning the surface to avoid overlap would be completely vaild.
     
  15. ThorSen

    ThorSen Member

    72
    Aug 17, 2017
    Western North Carolina
    2018 SPX 190 OUTBOARD 150
    150 4-stroke Mercury outboard
    Valid point re: bleach in effective products; therefore; for the good of the order (and lifespan of stitches) see links to MSDS for each of the respective products.

    Where you see “Sodium hypochlorite,” well, that IS bleach ...
    Sodium hypochlorite is a strong oxidizing agent in liquid form and is greenish or yellowish in color. It is commonly referred to as bleach because it is the active ingredient in bleach. Its chemical formula is NaClO, composed of one sodium (Na) atom, one chlorine (Cl) atom and one oxygen (O) atom.” ( https://study.com/academy/lesson/sodium-hypochlorite-structure-uses-formula.html )

    https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/pdfs/MSDS/Starbrite/STA_85616_MSDS.pdf

    http://www.homearmor.com/uploads/products/FG511 FG514 MA MSDS.pdf

    http://www.attwoodmarine.com/userfi...-s-a-85616--msds--2---07-11-08---09-08-08.doc

    Interestingly enough, Star-brite company actually appears as the principal listed at the bottom of the MSDS for the Atwood (Marine 31) product. Go figger ... ;-)

    What the Admiral and I typically do - in addition to avoiding excess of any cleaner on or in stitching crevices - is keep a spray bottle of clear water and some dry rags handy and in order to remove any residual cleaning product after it has done its own job on the mildew or stains. If we’re doing a large area we will rinse the “rinse rags” in a bucket of clean water, once they have a lot of cleaning solutions absorbed into them.

    All this OCD started after we saw friends liberally apply mildew and stain-remover on their upholstery one morning before launching , and without going behind it with anything. The residual product (probably had bleach in it) did some neat stuff to their upholstery wherever it was exposed to the full sun UV rays, all day, later that day ... (yellowed and cracked prematurely vs the ares under their canopy, etc.)
     
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  16. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Don't wait to long and let the mold get into the foam. You will really be fussy if that occurs.
     
  17. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    IMO if straight bleach will not remove the mold stains then nothing will.....I have had very good success using a WHITE rag lightly soaked in straight bleach and lying the rag directly on the stain leaving it to work for 10-15 mins or whatever time it takes....if the rag dries out I would re-soak it with bleach....this works very well since it keeps a concentrated solution of cleaner in direct contact with the stain for a prolong period of time and it keeps the bleach from getting on the stitching...

    then clean the vinyl with clear water and a basic cleaner such as Windex and follow-up with a vinyl protectant such as Aerospace 303....

    cliff
     
  18. KevinC

    KevinC Active Member

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    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    1988 Proline Center Console - 90hp Mariner/Mercury
    1969 Boston Whaler
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    Just be very very careful with the use of bleach. Unless there is no alternative I would never recommend bleach on vinyl as it will damage the platicizers in vinyl drying it out. When the plasticizers lose their effectiveness you will get cracking in the outer vinyl. I also do not recommend the magic erasers as they also deteriorate the vinyl as they work like a very fine sandpaper removing the outer layers of the vinyl coating.

    So, always start with the least aggressive and work up.

    -Kevin
     
  19. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    agree 110%.....only use bleach as a last resort....

    cliff
     
  20. Slimcobra

    Slimcobra Member

    86
    Aug 14, 2017
    Port St. John, FL
    2000 Sea Ray 210 SunDeck
    Mercruiser 5.0 w/ Alpha 1 Gen 2
    Wow, I didn't know that about the Magic Erasers, great tip. Almost everything you read or videos show using one.
     

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