I hate to ask this but...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Isle of Mann, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. Isle of Mann

    Isle of Mann New Member

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    Sep 23, 2021
    Boatless
    Boatless
    l'm in the market. Currently have my eye on a 1999 330DA Sundancer EC. What does DA stand for?
     
  2. wyrman

    wyrman Well-Known Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Tri-Cities, Wa
    2007 310 Sundancer
    Twin 350's, V drives
    1994 18' Bluewater bowrider
    Sundancer
     
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  3. Phil S

    Phil S Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 16, 2020
    Taxachusetts
    2004 300DA
    5.0 Merc B3
    and EC for Express Cruiser, not Eric Clapton
     
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  4. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    The high seas
    Pride 2
    Wind
    Wasnt EC that alien guy needed to call home?
     
  5. Isle of Mann

    Isle of Mann New Member

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    Sep 23, 2021
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    Thanks to all of you. wyrman your picture made the hair on my arms stand up!
     
  6. wyrman

    wyrman Well-Known Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Tri-Cities, Wa
    2007 310 Sundancer
    Twin 350's, V drives
    1994 18' Bluewater bowrider
    What picture?
     
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  7. Phil S

    Phil S Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 16, 2020
    Taxachusetts
    2004 300DA
    5.0 Merc B3
    Probably your boat pic. That is a fine looking vessel!
     
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  8. Isle of Mann

    Isle of Mann New Member

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    Sep 23, 2021
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    wyrman
    Just like Phil S said - your boat pic.
     
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  9. Eluther3

    Eluther3 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    187
    Mar 17, 2019
    1992 Searay 400 EC
    Mercruiser
    I thought EC stood for Extremely Cool. Probably should have researched before I bought my boat.
     
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  10. Phil S

    Phil S Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 16, 2020
    Taxachusetts
    2004 300DA
    5.0 Merc B3
    Isn't that implied ???
     
  11. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    1988 460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    When Sea Rays started gaining popularity in the 80's there were two flavors, EC and DA. The EC (express cruiser) which did not have an aft cabin and had straight inline drives. The DA (sun dancer) had the aft cabin and the engines had v-drives. Both boats had slightly different layouts comparatively. In the 90's all boats became DA's.
     
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  12. jmauld

    jmauld Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Jun 9, 2020
    Carolina Beach
    2010 Sundancer 390
    2016 Sea Hunt Ultra 211
    Twin 8.1l of gas guzzling iron
    Is the Sundancer still considered an express cruiser?
     
  13. 440 Jim

    440 Jim Active Member

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    Feb 11, 2021
    Savannah Bend Marina
    1989 440 Convertable
    Twin 3208T Cats
    Twin 3208T Cats
    Our '89 440 is a CV bridge.
     
  14. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    1988 460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    Depending on the year, as mentioned pre-90' there were two models EC and DA. Sundancer is a Sea Ray term and pretty much all Sea Ray's that aren't bridge boats are sundancers and/or also express cruisers. Express cruiser is a category the industry in general uses, and pretty much why Sea Ray started calling their boat's Sundancers, except for their bridge boats which coined the phrase sedan bridge back in the 90's. Before Sea Ray every boat with a bridge was pretty much a sport fish. Then in the 2000's they started to meld into those terms and only fishing boats (with tower) were sport fish and the same type of boat not being setup for fishing (no tower) was a sedan or sedan bridge or convertible. The brokers started mixing terms as they saw fit and now it's more or less what ever you call it or what category the boat fits in. You tell that by looking at the adds in magazines and online boat sales sites.
     
  15. Spark600

    Spark600 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    315
    Dec 28, 2013
    South Shore Long Island NY
    2015 Sundancer 410
    Onan Generator
    Mercury dinghy
    Cummins QSB HO 380 HP
    Zeus Pods
    I have a 2015 410 and it is called a Coupe
     
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  16. Pirate Lady

    Pirate Lady Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2020
    The high seas
    Pride 2
    Wind
    Never got the ‘convertible’. The top don’t come down. My dancer is a convertible, the canvas top comes down. So confused.
     
  17. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
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  18. PlayDate

    PlayDate Well-Known Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    Washington DC
    1994 370 Express Cruiser
    454 Mercruisers

    That isn't quite true.......The 410 Express Cruiser was still being produced in 2004.....straight shafts no V drives. Those of us with Express Cruisers really appreciate the large engine rooms and space to work on the mechanicals.
     
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  19. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    1988 460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    Yeah, there were options that could be ordered, but most of the boats by then all had aft cabins which were v-drive boats. Yours was far and few between, but to your point, a much better engine room and better ridding boat for sure. I think some time around 2005/6 that wasn't an option any more and all boats had v-drives and aft cabins. @fwebster would be the right person to chime in on that. I never worked for Sea Ray, only worked on them. And yeah it changed again ~2012 when the new designs came about.
     
  20. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    Sea Ray decided to drop the express cruisers because they lost popularity and were no longer selling. Once you get to about 40 ft, the straight inboard isn't much of an advantage and SR sales decided to no longer invest in 2 models of the same length. It is hard to generalize about this because one much consider the entire package……engine power, center of gravity, centerline to centerline distance between the shafts, bow rise, etc.

    My first Sea Ray was a 390EC……with straight inboards, great boat, great boat to work on …..my next boat was a 450DA with v-drives and I don't see how straight imboards would improve any facet of our boatinglives and we ran the 450 for 25 years.

    Sea Ray changed the express cruiser again with the 60/610 design. They are straight inboards and have tons of room everywhere and are great performers, but were at the top of the heap price-wise.
     
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